[mythtv] Help please!

Derrick Rademaker mythtv-dev@snowman.net
Thu, 12 Dec 2002 00:13:48 -0500


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John,

    Thank you for the links and the time to reply.  I am looking over =
the information provided. Again thank you

Derrick

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: John=20
  To: mythtv-dev@snowman.net=20
  Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 11:41 PM
  Subject: Re: [mythtv] Help please!


  Hi Derrick,

  Fellow "newbie" here.  I've asked similar questions and here's what =
I've garnered...

  1) Seems like the most preferred / common systems out here are the AMD =
systems such as the Athlon 2000+.  Powerful & inexpensive.  If you've =
got an older PC that needs more horsepower, you can get an Athlon 2000+ =
w/heatsink & fan, Motherboard, and 256mb RAM from googlegear.com (or =
tigerdirect.com) from around $175.  With it, I believe you'll be able to =
install two tuners and have picture in picture and record one show while =
watching another.  Wouldn't start out with that though - get one working =
first. ;-)

  2) All kinds of video tuner cards work.  I just bought a Matrox G200 =
TV because it has hardware MJPEG encoding which should allow my PIII-800 =
to do the job.  If not, I'll upgrade to an AMD setup above.  There's a =
list at:  http://www.goldfish.org/~mcooper/pvrhw/stats.html which lists =
all the various configs that people have used with MythTV.  It will give =
you an idea of what some of your choices are.

  3) As you probably know, Linux comes in many "flavors" or =
"distributions" (distos).   Mandrake is recommended as a great distro of =
Linux for beginners.  I've d/l their ISO's (CD images) and read the docs =
and it's VERY well written.  Answers all the basic questions and much =
more.  People have advised me to download and play with Mandrake and get =
familiar with it before jumping into the MythTV application.  Makes =
sense.

  4) The current "official" version of MythTV is .7.  There's a CVS =
(read this as compile all the development code yourself) version that is =
the true "latest" but not for beginners, and a .8 version is on the =
horizon - due this month if all goes well I guess.  The biggest =
difference with .8 will be splitting the encoding and decoding pieces =
into a "front end" and "back end".  Both of these processes can be done =
on the same box, or on different boxes.  This will allow slower (I guess =
read "sub-1ghz") boxes to handle each chore. =20

  5) The remote control portion works like this:  The remote itself can =
be almost any infrared or universal remote with 4 arrow keys and keys to =
use as Enter and Esc, etc.  The infrared "receiver" can either be =
purchased for around 35 bucks(?) or you can build it yourself with about =
$13 worth of parts from Radio Shack.  It seems quite simple to solder up =
and I'm going to put one together shortly and actually buy a Tivo remote =
control from their online web site ($29) because I've had one before and =
like its ergonomics.  If your existing entertainment system has a remote =
it may work fine.  Go to http://www.lirc.org/ for more info.

  6) There's a member on this list who's working on putting together a =
"MythTV on a CD" distribution.  It will work like this:  You'll download =
the image, burn a CD and then boot that up on your PC.  It will load a =
version of Linux with all the MythTV s/w all configured and =
ready-to-run!  Advantage is obviously you can be running in minutes =
without knowing much about what's going on.  Disadvantage is that it =
"may" be difficult to customize for your own hardware - especially if it =
strays from whatever is on the CD.  I used a SuSE CD like this when =
first checking out Linux a while back and it worked great.  We'll see =
when he has it ready, but there's a lot of interest in this option.

  Guess that's about it.  Like I say, I'm new to it too, but hey, we all =
start somewhere right? =20

  Good luck, and thanks again to all the guys who put in so much hard =
work to make MythTV available!

  John


    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Derrick Rademaker=20
    To: mythtv-dev@snowman.net=20
    Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 10:20 PM
    Subject: [mythtv] Help please!


    I have never used linux before in my life,  I would like to create a =
new pc exlusively for myth tv and pvr for my television system

    What would you recommend for the best idea system to have it used =
only for this and using a remote control with the entertainment system

    I am on a budget so I need to keep cost low=20

    Thank you for all your help

    Derrick


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>John,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Thank you for the =
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thank=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Derrick</FONT></DIV>
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  <A title=3Djohnmythtv@crombe.com =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January 11, =
2003 11:41=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [mythtv] Help =
please!</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Derrick,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Fellow "newbie" here.&nbsp; I've =
asked similar=20
  questions and here's what I've garnered...</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>1) Seems like the most preferred /=20
  common&nbsp;systems out here&nbsp;are the AMD systems such as the =
Athlon=20
  2000+.&nbsp; Powerful &amp; inexpensive.&nbsp; If you've got an older =
PC that=20
  needs more horsepower, you can get an Athlon 2000+ w/heatsink &amp; =
fan,=20
  Motherboard, and 256mb RAM from googlegear.com (or tigerdirect.com) =
from=20
  around $175.&nbsp; With it, I believe you'll be able to install two =
tuners and=20
  have picture in picture and record one show while watching =
another.&nbsp;=20
  Wouldn't start out with that though - get one working first. =
;-)</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>2) All kinds of video tuner cards =
work.&nbsp; I=20
  just bought a Matrox G200 TV because it has hardware MJPEG encoding =
which=20
  should allow my PIII-800 to do the job.&nbsp; If not, I'll upgrade to =
an AMD=20
  setup above.&nbsp; There's a list at:&nbsp; <A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.goldfish.org/~mcooper/pvrhw/stats.html">http://www.gol=
dfish.org/~mcooper/pvrhw/stats.html</A>&nbsp;which=20
  lists all the various configs that people have used with MythTV.&nbsp; =
It will=20
  give you an idea of what some of your choices are.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>3)&nbsp;As you probably know, Linux =
comes in many=20
  "flavors" or "distributions" (distos).&nbsp; &nbsp;Mandrake is =
recommended as=20
  a great distro of Linux for beginners.&nbsp; I've d/l their ISO's (CD=20
  images)&nbsp;and read the docs and it's VERY well written.&nbsp; =
Answers all=20
  the basic questions and much more.&nbsp; People have advised me to =
download=20
  and play with Mandrake and get familiar with it before jumping into =
the MythTV=20
  application.&nbsp; Makes sense.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>4) The current "official" version of =
MythTV is=20
  .7.&nbsp; There's a CVS (read this as&nbsp;compile all the development =
code=20
  yourself) version that is the true "latest" but not for beginners, and =
a .8=20
  version is on the horizon - due this month if all goes well I =
guess.&nbsp; The=20
  biggest difference with .8 will be splitting the encoding and decoding =
pieces=20
  into a "front end" and "back end".&nbsp; Both of these processes can =
be done=20
  on the same box, or on different boxes.&nbsp; This will allow slower =
(I guess=20
  read "sub-1ghz") boxes to handle each chore.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>5) The remote control&nbsp;portion =
works like=20
  this:&nbsp; The remote itself can be almost&nbsp;any&nbsp;infrared or=20
  universal&nbsp;remote with 4 arrow keys and keys to&nbsp;use as Enter =
and Esc,=20
  etc.&nbsp; The infrared "receiver" can either be purchased&nbsp;for =
around 35=20
  bucks(?) or you can build it yourself with about $13 worth of parts =
from Radio=20
  Shack.&nbsp; It seems quite simple to solder up and I'm going to put =
one=20
  together shortly and actually buy a Tivo remote control from their =
online web=20
  site ($29) because I've had one before and like its ergonomics.&nbsp; =
If your=20
  existing entertainment system has a remote it may work fine.&nbsp; Go =
to <A=20
  href=3D"http://www.lirc.org/">http://www.lirc.org/</A>&nbsp;for more=20
  info.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>6) There's a member on this list =
who's working on=20
  putting together a "MythTV on a CD" distribution.&nbsp; It will work =
like=20
  this:&nbsp; You'll download the image, burn a CD and then boot that up =
on your=20
  PC.&nbsp; It will load a version of Linux with all the MythTV s/w all=20
  configured and ready-to-run!&nbsp; Advantage is obviously you can be =
running=20
  in minutes without knowing much about what's going on.&nbsp; =
Disadvantage is=20
  that it "may" be difficult to&nbsp;customize for your own hardware -=20
  especially if it strays from whatever is on the CD.&nbsp; I used a =
SuSE CD=20
  like this when first checking out Linux&nbsp;a while back and it =
worked=20
  great.&nbsp; We'll see when he has it ready, but there's a lot of =
interest in=20
  this option.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Guess that's about it.&nbsp; Like I =
say, I'm new=20
  to it too, but hey, we all start somewhere right?&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Good luck, and thanks again to all =
the guys who=20
  put in so much hard work to =
make&nbsp;MythTV&nbsp;available!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>John</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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    style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
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    <A title=3Dtechnix@writeme.com =
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, December 11, =
2002=20
    10:20 PM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [mythtv] Help =
please!</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have never used linux before in =
my=20
    life,&nbsp; I would like to create a new pc exlusively for myth tv =
and pvr=20
    for my television system</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What would you recommend for the =
best idea=20
    system to have it used only for this and using a remote control with =
the=20
    entertainment system</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am on a budget so I need to keep =
cost low=20
    </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thank you for all your =
help</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Derrick</FONT></DIV>
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