hi donavan, should I resubmit the mythvideoupdate patch or is it a bit on the grey side of legal/acceptable? I ask this off list since you made the statement and have had no feedback. cheers mark Mark Spieth, PhD DC Labs Pty Ltd 2 Mavron Street Ashwood 3147 Australia ph: +61-3-9807 8600 Mobile: +61-4-11 515 717 Fax: +61-3-9807 9300 www.dclabs.com.au