[mythtv] [mythtv-commits] Ticket #1139: Add HD, CC, and Stereo indicators

Kevin Kuphal kuphal at dls.net
Tue Feb 14 18:41:14 UTC 2006


Simon Kenyon wrote:
> <flame>
> may i ask why this was closed?
>
> it makes no difference to me (i don't have HD or CC)
> but fixed implies that it is completely "fixed" when it is not
> it is 3/4 fixed
> that is why i reopened it. did you close it because it was in fact 
> completely fixed.
> i don't think so. you closed it because i didn't comment on -dev
>   
Quite simply, I closed it because from a functionality standpoint, the 
support for the indicators is present in the code.  This is not a 
mission critical feature but a nicety in the UI.  Having it present in 
every theme is nice, but not required and it is also trivial for someone 
who maintains the Minimalist-wide theme to add.  Having never used that 
theme or have any -wide equipment, it was enough for me to close my own 
Task ticket to add the indicators to all the non-wide themes leaving the 
-wide implementation to a dev that can test it properly.  It is quite 
obvious from the changes in the other themes what a theme designer needs 
to do to display them.

You may say, but as a user, I'm going to miss that feature if I use that 
theme.  And, well, you're right, but then this is the SVN branch, not a 
release and I can say for sure that the icons missing would be added 
prior to an official release.  Users running SVN branches are expected 
to keep up on -dev and -commit and understand what works perfectly and 
what doesn't as development continues.
> anyway, comments on -dev are pretty well ignored
> comments on -commits are not
> if people spent less time replying to stuff on -commits with comments 
> like "this is not a discussion forum" then this would be a better system
>   
Far from it.  -dev is quite active and it should be obvious from the 
multitude of tickets closed because of using it as a discussion forum 
that it is not wanted for that purpose in this project.  It would have 
been far more productive to open a Task ticket that was simply "Add HD, 
Stereo, and CC indicators to Minimalist-wide theme" if it was so 
important.  With every tool, there is a proper way to use it and I think 
Isaac has made it clear how he wants Trac used in this project.
> you might ask why i care (well maybe you won't)?
> i'm not a developer (apart from some seriously minor stuff a long while ago)
> nevertheless, i spend about 2-3 hours on myth a day
> i've spent maybe $10k on hardware (boo hoo hoo i hear you say)
> so i want myth to be perfect, not the current mess that it is
>
> i've held back from making a comment like this for a long time now
> i realise that i will be ignored from this point forward
> but, like i say, this is important to me
It's the us vs. them mentality that more often seems to come from users 
directed at developers that goes a long way towards fostering the type 
of bitterness you seem to have here.  It's too bad that you feel myth is 
a mess and more importantly, feel the need to express that opinion, 
however unsubstantiated in this forum...

Kevin


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