[mythtv] MythMusic Redux Proposals WAS: Proposed Change to MythMusic

[Jochen Kühner]

>>> Let's use this thread to post and discuss mock-ups. This is not a
>>> "wish list" thread, use the wiki for that and those of us creating
>>> mock-ups will use that list to create our ideas. Use this thread to
>>> comment on the mock-up. Also, please wait for mock-ups to be posted or
>>> create your own instead of just adding comments like "I'd like to see
>>> things work this way...".
>>>       
>> I also do not have much time for coding, but here are some of the things
>> that caught my eye of late:
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/9111235@N06/774817433/in/photostream/
>> The above link is a series of Mockup a user recently posted to the
>> Clutter mailing list. This appears to be his pet project and he has
>> written a backend and is now coding the frontend using libclutter and
>> the python bindings. For those of you who don't know Clutter is a nice
>> API for creating simple but visually rich GL apps, specifically media apps.
>>
>>
>> http://elisa.fluendo.com/
>> Elisa is a Pigment based meida player. Pigment seems to be very similar
>> to Clutter and some people I've spoken to recently on IRC (MacSlow
>> included) have mentioned that they'd like the Pigment and Clutter people
>> to work together for the common good. I don't think this is overly
>> likely however. It seems Pigment has more focus on the Python bindings
>> in that these appear to be the main/recommended approach to leaveraging
>> Pigment.
>>
>>
>> The above are designed to give a few thoughts on ideas rather than
>> anything else.
>>
>> Also I recently attended part of the Akademy (KDE Dev conference). There
>> are some very interesting things proposed by Qt guys, specifically Zack
>> Rusin. He showed some really nice GL based frameworks he was working on.
>> I think Qt will really start to shine in it's next 4.x series
>> (QGraphicsView is already pretty good I am told but more is gonna come
>> in the future).
>>
>> Also in addition to this, there was significant talk of Strigi (the KDE4
>> Indexing tool - think Kat, Kerry, Beagle etc. but actually good!). I
>> wanted to catch this lecture but missed most of it. I wanted to ask if
>> this was a good thing as there are so many solutions in this field, how
>> can we make user facing tools that will work with all backends? Well
>> what I did manage to catch of this was that there is now a Freedesktop
>> Standard for accessing search indexes!!! Woot!!
>>
>> http://freedesktop.org/wiki/XesamAbout
>>
>> This is a mechanism to search these various indexers via DBUS.
>>
>> This would meed that Tracker or Strigi could be used to index your Music
>> files and Xesam could be used to query it.
>>
>> If there is to be a MythMusic rewrite (or reimplementation as MythTunes
>> perhaps?)
>>     
>
> MythTunes! perhaps renaming it to that as a separate project is a good idea?
>
>   
>> then i think it could lead the way to building on such a
>> backend. I really hope that media applications will go this way - even
>> if it means doing work on other projects ot get there. I dream of the
>> day I can use Amarok, or RhythmBox or MythTunes and they all share the
>> same Meta database, same static playlists, and even the same dynamic
>> playlists (some sort of Stored Procedure but for a search index? No idea
>> if this exists, but it would be neat!).
>>     
>
> I agree, I think it would be great if Amarok and MythTunes shared a db
> (I have mySQL running a db for Amarok and MythTV right now anyway) ,
> but I don't know if the Amarok db holds enough track/id3 information
> to do what is needed. At least thats the impression i get when i look
> at the track properties dialog in Amarok. Someone would need to look
> at this, and perhaps approach the Amarok team about such a sharing of
> databases.
>
> Perhaps a better method would be for there to be a "server" part of
> MythTunes that integrates with Amarok in some fashion (amongst other
> things it could do, like daap, etc?). Anyway, thats off topic...
>
>   
>> Those of you who know me know this is not a new bugbear for me! So I'm
>> just seizing the opportunity to do exactly what Justin predicted :p
>>     
>
> I believe many of the previous discussions about this were you and I
> bantering back and forth with a few others as no one paid attention =D
>
> Oh, I looked at the links you sent. I'm trying to integrate ideas from
> all these sources, including iTunes, AppleTV's interface, etc.
>
> I see perhaps an "iTunes" style interface that is more utilitarian
> than pretty, a "JukeBox" style which is more pretty than utilitarian,
> and then a version of each for HD and SD. This along with proper a
> MythWeb module (which seems to be going well right now from what I've
> seen) and it should cover all the ways to manage music. I've got some
> drawings on my desk at work I'll continue to work on....
>
>   
I also would like it if there will be one database style for all audio 
programs.

So also the mp3act people can use the same...