[mythtv-users] Spilt Myth mailing list?

Dan Berger dan at theidiots.org
Tue Feb 10 15:09:36 EST 2004


There are a number of different issues here:

1. People constantly use this mailing list for everything from basic linux
questions (cron, htaccess) to ivtv, lirc and xmltv problems. While all these
are important for getting MythTV going, they really have nothing to do with
it. If this mailing list was strictly for mythtv we would see less than half
the traffic we see now. You rarely see an actual mythtv discussion (which is
usually drowned out by the users' problems).

2. With a forum you can create different areas for different interests. A
general discussion board, a howto board, HDTV board, etc.

3. I don't care what email client you use, you can't possibly say that it is
convenient when most of this email has nothing to do with mythtv and comes
at around 100-200 messages a day.

4. In response to Chris Peterson argument that its what the devs want, their
wishes should definitely be respected, but isnt that why -dev exists?

5. The reason I remain on this mailing list, and I'm sure many would agree,
is because it is the only option. While I enjoy reading it and plan on
staying here, I think it is  time to expand.

6. Such a serious expansion needs the blessing and support of the devs.

7. Addressing the concerns of those who say that forums are slower. That is
not true. There are many forums out there that serve as the center of
communities. In fact, nowadays, forums replace many mailing lists. With the
right software and with a good server, it should be very smooth.

Finally, we need to realize that MythTV, unlike other OSS projects, attracts
those who are not too savy in linux. This is why the ml is filled with so
many basic problems. With around 3000 users for an unmoderated list, it is
really overdoing it imo.

>-----Original Message-----
>From: mythtv-users-bounces at mythtv.org 
>[mailto:mythtv-users-bounces at mythtv.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Kuphal
>Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 1:53 PM
>To: 'Discussion about mythtv'
>Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] Spilt Myth mailing list?
>
>
>Not to stir the pot, but if a forum provides all the features 
>to all the people (depart from the "I won't use it" part for a 
>second).  And email provides all the features to only some of 
>the people (because of software or whatever).  Then other than 
>disliking forums, doesn't it make sense to provide a service 
>that provides all the features to all the people?  
>
>You will have people on both sides who either don't like 
>forums or don't like email lists but one provides guaranteed 
>compatibility to all users regardless of their personal setup 
>and one doesn't.
>
>Kevin
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mythtv-users-bounces at mythtv.org 
>> [mailto:mythtv-users-bounces at mythtv.org] On Behalf Of 
>> steve at nexusuk.org
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 11:45 AM
>> To: Discussion about mythtv
>> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Spilt Myth mailing list?
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, 10 Feb 2004, Andrew Dodd wrote:
>> 
>> > > I vote for a forum.
>> > As I mentioned before, I'd be willing to install/administer it if 
>> > someone is willing to provide a place to host it.
>> 
>> However, most of us aren't willing to use it - if your email client 
>> doesn't provide the same facilities as a forum then it's time to 
>> seriously think about changing your email client to one that does.
>> 
>> --
>> 
>>  - Steve                                             
>> http://www.nexusuk.org/
>> 
>>      Servatis a periculum, servatis
>> a maleficum - Whisper, Evanescence
>> 
>> 
>
>
>



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