[mythtv-users] Re: MPlayer Occasional Subtitles

[Boyd II, Willy]

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>[mailto:mythtv-users-bounces at mythtv.org] On Behalf Of Joe .
>Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 9:26 AM
>To: mythtv-users at mythtv.org
>Subject: [mythtv-users] Re: MPlayer Occasional Subtitles
>
>
>>>That type of subtitle is usually rendered directly on the 
>video; i.e. 
>>>it's
>>>(typically) not a true selectable DVD subtitle. I'm very 
>surprised that 
>>>you say mplayer does not show them... is it possible your 
>screen settings 
>>>are causing them to be cut off?
>>>
>>>-JAC
>>
>>Likewise - I own an awful lot of DVD's with foreign "bits" in 
>them, and
>>I've not seen one yet that doesn't have rendered subtitles. Generally 
>>speaking (for predominatly englsh-language movies) if you see 
>subs at the 
>>cinema, they'll be rendered on the DVD.
>
>if by 'rendered' you mean the subtitles have actually be stuck 
>onto the 
>picture and are not pulled from a file or anything, then no, 
>this is not the 
>case. in the godfather films and kill bill (at least the uk, 
>pal versions 
>that i own), these subtitles are displayed dynamically. in 
>other words, if i 
>were to rip the dvd without bothering to set something up to catch 
>subtitles, then they wouldn't be in my rip.

Though I can't verify this (I don't own Kill Bill yet), I can at least
support it.  I have a friend who rented the US (ntsc) version of Kill
Bill, and his dvd player for some reason defaulted to not showing the
subtitles.  Made that bar scene in Japan quite confusing ;-)

- Willy

>
>xine shows them, and i can change the fon't they appear in, so 
>they're not 
>rendered on :-) it's just mplayer that doesn't. there must be 
>something 
>quite clever going on, because none of the subtitle tracks are 
>just those 
>bits (i.e. subtitles must be turned on & off while you watch 
>or something). 
>standalone dvd players (and xine) are obviously sophisticated 
>enough to 
>handle this, mplayer is not.
>
>maybe i'll just use xine instead. that way i'll get dvd menus 
>too (and avoid 
>the 'always plays track1 chapter1' problem). is there any 
>reason why using 
>xine would be a worse idea? why do people generally prefer 
>mplayer with 
>myth?
>
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