[mythtv-users] UK xmltv/tv_grab_uk_rt woes - argh!

Tue May 4 12:02:03 EDT 2004

I don't think your problem is RT blocking access - I'm updating my tv
listings as I write this with no problems. Sorry if that rubs salt in the
wound ;-) but just so you don't go down the wrong track.

And yes Myth will auto tune to your channel of choice. I use NTL cable
though so I've no idea what the frequencies you needs are. I used to use the
terrestrial channels and it was a nightmare trying to fine tune the signal.
Sadly Myth won't let you enter an exact frequency (as far as I know).

If you post your xmltv output (what it is that suggests to you that a
user/pass is needed in particular) then I might be able to help some more.

Good luck,

Adam

> -----Original Message-----
> From: mythtv-users-bounces at mythtv.org 
> [mailto:mythtv-users-bounces at mythtv.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Tait
> Sent: 04 May 2004 16:45
> To: Discussion about mythtv
> Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] UK xmltv/tv_grab_uk_rt woes - argh!
> 
> 
> At 16:20 04/05/2004 +0100, you wrote:
> >Hi there,
> >
> >Sorry to hear about your xmltv troubles. I'm running Gentoo 
> and havn't 
> >had any problems with it, but I'll see if I can throw a few 
> ideas your 
> >way anyhow.
> >
> >1) You shouldn't need to run "tv_grab_uk_rt --configure". The myth 
> >setup program does that for you when configureing a TV source. 
> >Admittedly it's a pain 'cos you think at first that it has 
> hung, when 
> >in fact you just need to ALT-Tab to your terminal window. 
> There you'll 
> >see the configure run through for xmltv. When you exit you should be 
> >able to run mythfilldatabase without problems.
> 
> Aye, that's what I've been doing - the Myth docs are very 
> clear up to this 
> point! I only ever tried configuring manually once I realised 
> that the 
> mythfilldatabase --manual function wasn't doing what it said 
> on the tin.
> 
> 
> >2) If you insist on running it yourself, you'll still need a source 
> >setup and "attached" to the card input you'll be using. If we assume 
> >you've managed to configure a ~/.mythtv/channel xmltv config 
> file, you 
> >must run "tv_grab_uk_rt --config-file ~/.mythtv/channel --output 
> >listings.xml". Once you got the xml file you can run 
> "mythfilldatabase 
> >--file 1 0 listings.xml" which should populate your database.
> 
> I shall give that a whirl, but Initial Reports Confirm (i.e. 
> 5 minutes of 
> mucking about with switches and redirects) that it looks like RT is 
> blocking (default) XMLTV access. I'm going to attempt to get 
> the haXx0ring 
> hat on and see if I can convince RT to let me in with a 
> user/pass I made 
> myself and see if that solves anything. Hopefully looking at 
> PERL code 
> won't make me go mad.
> 
> 
> >As you can see it is far easier to set it up through the 
> initial myth 
> >setup prog. The xmltv ids (london.bbc1.bbc.co.uk etc.) 
> aren't real URLs 
> >they are just used for identifying channels withing xmltv. 
> If you are 
> >still having trouble with the channel numbers and xmltv ids then 
> >MythWeb is probably the easiest way to adjust these. I found 
> I had to 
> >do quite a bit of tweaking.
> 
> Aha, I see - I had no idea XMLTV used "fake URLs" - no wonder 
> it had me 
> confused! I've already written my own BASH script to test 
> every single 
> frequency and channel number that I can receive so I can 
> compile a list of 
> channel numbers and frequencies and insert them into the DB 
> manually if 
> neccessary.
> 
> Am I right in thinking that Myth will be able to change channels 
> automagically, and I won't have to call ptune.pl manually? I 
> don't even 
> want to go into the bother of telling you what I had to do 
> just to get 
> ptune.pl working (damned documentation!)!
> 
> /mind boggles at funkiness of Myth
> 
> 
> So many questions! Answers on a postcard please. Or an old 
> slice of pizza 
> if you're so inclined!
> 
> Thanks for the replies chaps - all too many of the Gentoo 
> forum goers just 
> tell me to reinstall things. Makes me wonder why I didn't 
> join this list 
> sooner!
> 
> >Hope some of that helps,
> >
> >Adam
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: mythtv-users-bounces at mythtv.org 
> > > [mailto:mythtv-users-bounces at mythtv.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Tait
> > > Sent: 04 May 2004 15:33
> > > To: mythtv-users at mythtv.org
> > > Subject: [mythtv-users] UK xmltv/tv_grab_uk_rt woes - argh!
> > >
> > >
> > > OK, another guy with a fairly basic Myth setup. Ickle 
> desktop case 
> > > with a PVR-250 in it, running Gentoo with MythTV 0.13 and XMLTV
> > > 0.5.32 (latest
> > > version). ivTV works fine in mPlayer and all the rest of 'em
> > > (I even got
> > > audio working after I found out the UK version needed
> > > different module
> > > parameters!).
> > >
> > > I've followed as many instructions as I could find to try and get 
> > > the TV listings to work, but so far nada. I've made a similar post
> > > on the Gentoo
> > > forums and am about to go find somewhere to post it in the
> > > XMLTV lists.
> > >
> > > Initial Myth setup goes swimmingly until the time comes 
> to populate 
> > > the database.
> > >
> > > I first set up XMLTV to use tv_grab_uk_rt (using the --configure 
> > > option) to create my ~/.xmltv/channel file which lists all the 
> > > channels I want - BBC 1
> > > & 2, ITV, Channel 4 and 5. When I run mythfilldatabase
> > > --manual (or just
> > > regular mythfilldatabase) everything goes pear shaped.
> > >
> > > 1) Nothing ever gets written to the database in the "channels" 
> > > section. The rest of the database (music, video, etc etc) 
> all gets 
> > > updated immediately
> > >
> > > 2) XMLTV is using the wrong channels. It lists BBC 1 on 
> channel 1, 
> > > when it's actually channel 26. Same for other channels.
> > >
> > > 3) No program data is downloaded.
> > >
> > > The text I get spewed back after XMLTV hangs (if I press 
> return five 
> > > times, this message pops up):
> > >
> > > Unknown xmltv channel identifier: london.bbc1.bbc.co.uk Skipping 
> > > channel Unknown xmltv channel identifier: channel4.com Skipping 
> > > channel Unknown xmltv channel
> > > identifier: channel5.co.uk Skipping channel Unknown xmltv channel 
> > > identifier: central.carlton.com Skipping channel Unknown xmltv 
> > > channel identifier: london.bbc2.bbc.co.uk Skipping channel
> > >
> > > XMLTV barfs on this, and then tries to download the next 
> days data, 
> > > and fails, ad inifinitum. It probably doesn't help that half of
> > > those URL's
> > > don't seem to exist - not that it shoud need them, since it's
> > > grabbing from
> > > radiotimes.co.uk right? - but then I don't know how XMLTV
> > > works (though I
> > > might have to find out at this rate).
> > >
> > > Does anyone have a clue a) what's going wrong and b) how 
> I can fix 
> > > it? I've decided that what UK users need is a good consolidated 
> > > howto for setting up
> > > MythTV in a limey environment, since documentation on the 
> PAL side of
> > > things is sketchy to say the least (oh google, where would I
> > > be without
> > > you?). If anyone has any help, I'd be exceedingly grateful
> > > and have already
> > > been compiling a step-by-step guide onto getting Myth and 
> ivtv up and
> > > running in a UK environment (tailored for Gentoo, but being
> > > made relevant
> > > to all distros).
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance!
> > >
> > > Tait
> > >
> > > New found hater of XML file formats ;^)
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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