[mythtv-users] Perplexed on plextors (ConvertX)

EC mythtv at magi-tech.com
Tue Jun 21 17:45:01 UTC 2005


Just a quick followup:

   I never could get a set of kernel options under which the cold-plug
scripts would detect a "cold" plextor (either coldplug only detects an
already initalized plextor, or I still have configuration issues).  If
the firmware has been loaded to it, then coldplug detects the unit on
subsequent computer reboots.  Assuming that the plextor is detected,
MythTV functions with it, but it is much touchier about the device than
the plextor test app, gorecord.  There seem to be many "almost right"
kernel configurations under which gorecord works fine, but MythTV does
not.
   The option set that seems to mostly work for me (still have the
"completely cold" cold plug problem) is:

CONFIG_HOTPLUG=y
CONFIG_MODULES=y
CONFIG_KMOD=y
CONFIG_FW_LOADER=y
CONFIG_I2C=m
CONFIG_VIDEO_DEV=m
CONFIG_SOUND=y
CONFIG_SND=y
CONFIG_USB=m
CONFIG_USB_DEVICEFS=y
CONFIG_USB_EHCI_HCD=m
CONFIG_SND_MIXER_OSS=y
CONFIG_SND_PCM_OSS=y

   Anyway, I'm up and mostly happy again.  Oh, the kernel version I'm
using is 2.6.11 (gentoo-r11).
   Now, I guess I just have to figure out the manual firmware loading
for when I cycle the power on the plextor (or figure out why coldplug
cannot detect the uninitialized device.  (hotplug can)...
--
       EC

On Mon, 2005-06-20 at 10:28 -0700, EC wrote:
> Hmmm,
>    I had been using my PX-TV402U for about 3 weeks with no problems, and
> then started having very similar problems after a recent reboot.  I
> don't know what I changed.  (I have currently reverted to a PVR250,
> which works fine - though it's MPEG2).
> 
>    The gentoo-wiki (http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_go7007) for the
> plextor units contains some helpful information, for non-gentoo systems
> too, I suspect.
> 
>    I really have no insight here, though, if we are having the same
> problem, some additional details.  My symptoms are:
> gorecord runs fine.  hotplug works (and initializes the device),
> coldplug does NOT work (though it used to.  I can configure the unit
> (mythtv-setup/mythfrontend rcording profiles) with no problem.  When I
> try using it, though, Live TV runs for a few seconds and dies
> (sometimes/often, the picture is black and white).  I'll put the message
> below.  MythTV stops responding to ALL input (keyboard, remote) while in
> Live TV mode.  The channel changer script (I use an external tuner)
> never gets called (I have it log channel changes) - I believe that is
> why you get the wrong channel.  Scheduled recording DO work (in color,
> even) - though with the above mentioned problem that the channel changer
> never gets called.
> 
>    I got sick of playing with it over the weekend, and threw a loaner
> PVR250 into the box, and set it up.  It came up absolutely no problem
> (start to finish in about 10 minutes), and none of the afore mentioned
> problems exhibit.  I connect the plextor again, and they are all back -
> though only if I configure the plextor for use.  Having it present, with
> drivers installed is not problem, as long as MythTV isn't trying to use
> it.  Dmesg/kernel logs look OK to me.  I suspect something with the
> way/order that the plextor gets initialized, but haven't been able to
> track it down yet.  It used to work.  I did follow the advice on the
> go7007 gentoo-wiki.  It worked for me originally (I did amend it).
> 
>    I suspect the timeout/running for only a few seconds is a result of
> MythTV not responding to anything while in Live TV.
> 
>    I'll be looking at it some more this evening.  Any insight would be
> appreciated, and I'll post any results I get.  I am running
> Gentoo/kernel 2.6.11-r8.  I tried 2.6.11-r11, but it didn't help.
> 
> My applicable kernel configuration entries (according to the plextor
> driver documentation) are:
> CONFIG_HOTPLUG=y
> CONFIG_MODULES=y
> CONFIG_KMOD=y
> CONFIG_FW_LOADER=y
> CONFIG_I2C=m
> CONFIG_VIDEO_DEV=y
> CONFIG_SOUND=y
> CONFIG_SND=y
> CONFIG_USB=m
> CONFIG_USB_DEVICEFS=y
> CONFIG_USB_EHCI_HCD=m
> CONFIG_SND_MIXER_OSS=y
> CONFIG_SND_PCM_OSS=y
> 
>    I read those from /proc/config.gz for the running kernel.
> 
>    The MythTV error message I get is:
> 
> 2005-06-19 22:05:26.209 Connecting to backend server: 192.168.0.15:6543
> (try 1 o
> f 5)
> 2005-06-19 22:05:26.216 Using protocol version 15
> 2005-06-19 22:05:26.258 Using protocol version 15
> 2005-06-19 22:05:27.341 Opening audio device '/dev/sound/dsp'.
> 2005-06-19 22:05:27.341 Opening OSS audio device '/dev/sound/dsp'.
> 2005-06-19 22:05:27.352 Using XV port 145
> 2005-06-19 22:05:27.549 Realtime priority would require SUID as root.
> 2005-06-19 22:05:27.577 Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV
> 2005-06-19 22:05:27.743 Video timing method: SGI OpenGL
> 2005-06-19 22:05:47.580 ReadStringList timeout (quick).
> Remote encoder not responding.
> 2005-06-19 22:05:47.581 WriteStringList: Bad socket
> 2005-06-19 22:05:47.581 ReadStringList: Bad socket
> Remote encoder not responding.
> 2005-06-19 22:05:47.708 WriteStringList: Bad socket
> 2005-06-19 22:05:47.708 ReadStringList: Bad socket
> Remote encoder not responding.
> 2005-06-19 22:05:47.951 Changing from WatchingLiveTV to None
> 2005-06-19 22:05:47.954 Changing from None to None
> 
> If I run it as root, I get the same thing, except no SUID warning (of
> course).  I'm currently running the backend as root.
> 
> 
> On Sat, 2005-06-18 at 18:19 -0700, Jason H wrote:
> > Latest update:
> > I told it t record Buffy on FX, it recorded Comedy
> > Central - the last channel that gorecord was set to.
> > But I did get 1/2 hr of Bubble Boy, so the recording
> > part works. Now if I could only get MythTV to control
> > the encoder...
> > 
> > It looks like mythtv is not talking to the cards
> > properly. Any  ideas?
> > 
> > --- Jason H <scorp1us at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > I somehow got rid of the driver loading error, its
> > > not
> > > in dmesg anymore.
> > > 
> > > Troubles remain though, all of the time now MythTV
> > > Live is black. Running gorecord fixes it. But now I
> > > have a new problem, it aborts live tv after a few
> > > seconds, and says there was a problem (MythTV
> > > screen).
> > > I cannot find any explanation of the problem on
> > > console or in the mythlog table. 
> > > 
> > > I am using US-analog cable. I use ntsc-cable in
> > > gorecord, and I use us-cable in MythTV. I tried the
> > > other entry (us-cable-grs?) no difference. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- Juan Jesús García de Soria Lucena
> > > <skandalfo at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Hello...
> > > > 
> > > > 2005/6/18, Jason H <scorp1us at yahoo.com>:
> > > > > And I still get an unable to load firmware
> > > message
> > > > on
> > > > > bootup. I;ve tried linking/copying the files
> > > > around to
> > > > > various places, but to no avail.
> > > > 
> > > > I don't know about kernel firmware loading but...
> > > > may it be that you
> > > > have your firmware stored in a filesystem that's
> > > not
> > > > mounted /
> > > > available when the USB subsystem is initialized?
> > > > 
> > > > I mean, if you have your USB support in-kernel (as
> > > > opposed to it being
> > > > modules) or if you're using an USB-starting initrd
> > > > without the plextor
> > > > modules, I think you may have this kind of
> > > > problem... Try to delay the
> > > > USB initialization to a later time when all
> > > > filesystems are available
> > > > (make USB modules instead of in-kernel, don't use
> > > > initrd...).
> > > >  
> > > > > Running the gorecord app makes it work. This
> > > > obviously
> > > > > shouldn't be the case. Without gorecord I now
> > > get
> > > > a
> > > > > green screen.
> > > > 
> > > > Perhaps there's some "tuning" problem in MythTV
> > > that
> > > > gorecord got
> > > > properly programmed/configured... Check whether
> > > > you've got some
> > > > NTSC/PAL configuration missing in MythTV...
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Regards,
> > > > 
> > > >    Juan Jesús.
> > > > 
> > > > -- 
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