[mythtv-users] MythTV presentation at WSFII

[Mike Ryan]

Quoting Mike Ryan <mythtv at redmar.com>:

> Quoting Björn Svartengren <svarten at svarten.com>:
>
>> Dewey Smolka wrote:
>>
>>> I was a bit curious though when you mentioned businesses selling
>>> pre-built Myth systems and Myth accessories. I've seen systems for
>>> sale on ebay and such, and have seen some pretty poorly disguised Myth
>>> systems sold through dodgy web sites, but am unaware of any
>>> (legitimate) company making a real go at it.
>>>
>>> Selling and servicing Myth systems is something I've had in mind for a
>>> while, but I've been put off by a number of concerns. One of the
>>> larger problems -- program data -- has been addressed by LxM, but I'm
>>> still terrified of running into IP issues.
>>>
>>> Namely, whatever my opinion, DMCA is Federal Law here in the Land of
>>> the Free (TM), and Myth is full of potential violations. Yes, I know
>>> it's ridiculous, but there's no way (that I'm aware of, at least) to
>>> play DVDs, archive DVDs, play or achive copy-protected non-CDs, or
>>> record protected broadcast content on Linux without violating this
>>> law. In addition, because of the recent Grokster decision, a seller of
>>> Myth could potentially be held liable if someone records a TV show
>>> with a Myth and then sticks it on the internet.
>>>
>>>
>> MythiC.TV sels a pre installed system they call Dragon, link to it here:
>> http://mythic.tv/product_info.php?products_id=44
>>
>>> While much of this is specific to the US, I'm just wonderin g if you
>>> know how people are getting around this or protecting themselves from
>>> it. I have absolute confidence that Myth would win if these things
>>> were ever tried in court, but I don't have the time or money to be the
>>> test case.
>>>
>>>
>> As you sayed most of the problems you mention are only a problem in 
>> US, many other places
>> around the world have specific rules permitting backup copying of 
>> software/movies/music for
>> personal use.
>>
>>> Anyway, I didn't mean to ramble on at you, but just to congratulate
>>> you on a job well done.
>>>
>> Cheers,
>>  Svarten
>>
>
> Hi,
>
> Thanks for the feedback. I now have the persentation available online for
> download at
> http://www.londoncrime.org/presentation
>
> I claim no sort of copyright or any of that rubbish on any of this, 
> so feel free
> to re-cycle/re-use.
>
> I'm at work at the moment, so will respond to the questions raised when I get
> home
>
> Cheers
>
> Mike
>
>
>
Hi

As Bjorn said, the US pre-built system can be found at:
http://mythic.tv/product_info.php?products_id=44

This was also the company I had in mind when I was talking about 
web-sites being
set up to specifically address the hardware requirements of Myth users.

Slashdot ran an article in '04 about an Aussie company that was also shipping
pre-built systems:
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/03/25/2222240

I was obviously addressing the UK market in the presentation, and I'm 
not aware
of anything that I use that is a legal problem, except possibly for one thing.
I *think* that there may be a question of my right to copy my recordings to my
PSP (for me only and no-one else). However, if this is true, then every single
one of these products is also illegal:
http://www.empiredirect.co.uk/content/products/list.asp?subdept=dvdhddrecorder
because they allow you to shift your recordings from the hard drive to a DVD.

Anyway, thanks for the positive feedback

Kind Regards

Mike