[mythtv-users] using WinTV PVR-350 to play AM/FM radio? (slightly OT)

[Steven Adeff]

On 4/4/06, Brad DerManouelian <myth at dermanouelian.com> wrote:
> On Apr 4, 2006, at 3:56 PM, Steven Adeff wrote:
>
> > On 4/4/06, Jeff Simpson <jeffsimpson at alum.wpi.edu> wrote:
> >>> I disagree somewhat in the playback ideas. I do agree that exporting
> >>> to portable media devices should definitely be a big part of this, I
> >>> would even extend that idea to make it possible to stream to those
> >>> networked audio player device things (I don't have one, but I can
> >>> see
> >>> this being a great feature).
> >>
> >>
> >> I just didn't want this seemingly-simple idea get too bloated
> >> before it even
> >> starts. Once we get started on the perils of inventing Yet Another
> >> MP3
> >> Player and integrating it into myth, it becomes a very large
> >> project. (yeah,
> >
> > except it would just be a matter of slightly modifying whats there to
> > handle the FM recordings.
> >
> >> I agree, it makes sense for recordings of radio to be in with
> >> recordings of
> >> TV, since they are both recordings, but at the same time, music
> >> (mp3) and
> >> radio are also very similar, and mythmusic and the like already
> >> have info
> >> display and visualizations built in.
> >
> > The issue is that MythMusic is, IMNSHO, a mess, I end up booting up
> > XBMC on the xbox and using that to listen to music since it is a
> > pleasure to use for this. I've also had other issues with MythMusic
> > not being able to play many of my mp4 encodes, etc. Makes me think
> > MythMusic could use a complete rewrite...
> >
> > I'd settle for using the DVB radio video creation method already in
> > SVN to be used to create a visual for playback of FM recordings with
> > the regular OSD info used for TV to display information.
> >
> > In fact, this is probably the best way to go. I don't know how far
> > along the new MFE is, but from what I understand it should give a much
> > more integrated UI feel to Myth and its plugins, something more akin
> > to how XBMC can move between music, video, and picture playback
> > seamlessly. I think any fancy stuff should just be put on hold until
> > it can be done in MFE instead.
> >
> >>> Anyway, I have my MythTV setup connected to my hometheatre which
> >>> doubles as my "stereo", so *I* would want to have a nice
> >>> interface for
> >>> playing back radio this way, as well, many people have remote
> >>> frontends in rooms without radios, so even if you are playing it
> >>> back
> >>> through the TV its better than nothing. In that regard, I don't see
> >>> organization and playback of recorded radio needing to be much
> >>> different than how TV is handled. I think the current Watch
> >>> Recordings
> >>> area is a fine layout for Radio, you could even replace the Preview
> >>> picture with an image associated with the show (cause everyone loves
> >>> eye candy!).
> >>
> >>
> >> Since it doubles as your stereo, I'm sure you can also see the
> >> need for an
> >> easy to use and well designed music player as well. If mythmusic
> >> were as
> >> intuitive as the watch-recordings menu is, people would actually
> >> use it.
> >> Imagine having the ability to scroll through recorded FM, mp3s,
> >> audio CDs,
> >> and even shoutcast and other internet streams. A shoutcast stream
> >> is not
> >> much different from recorded FM when you think about it. You can
> >> group media
> >> into "where you got it from" or "what you'll do with it" and come
> >> up with
> >> "recorded" and "library" and "watch" and "listen-to". Either one
> >> seems like
> >> a good way to group them, but one puts radio in with tv because
> >> you recorded
> >> it, the other puts radio in with mp3s because you listen to them.
> >
> > I agree, I even posted to the dev list a UI concept that would allow
> > for this AND still function well with a 6 button remote. The problem
> > is getting people to code it. I don't have this ability and honestly
> > don't particularly enjoy coding enough to want to learn.
> >
> > I will be moving into a new apt soon with a friend that is CompSci
> > major and programs for a living though, and perhaps having Myth around
> > will get him interested enough to contribute...
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> >> I think step one would be trying to record radio outside myth
> >> (just like
> >> step one in setting
> >> up myth is getting the capture cards to work outside of myth).
> >> Once we can
> >> create an
> >> environment where we can easily start/stop recordings of set
> >> frequencies to
> >> files, we can
> >> add on scheduling and all the myth integration that we'll need.
> >>
> >> Is anyone currently using a radio card to record radio? and if so,
> >> what
> >> programs are you using?
> >>
> >> Also, now that I think about it, what radio card will be
> >> supported? As far
> >> as I know, there isn't a
> >> standard interface for radio cards, I've just been assuming that
> >> we'll use
> >> an ivtv supported radio
> >> device like the PVR cards from hauppauge.
> >
> > I think this is just a matter of knowing how v4l handles radio. From
> > what I understand the ivtv drivers for the PVR cards are capable of
> > controling the radio, it may be as simple as using ivtv-tune to tune
> > the station and then mplayer /dev/radio0 to listen.
> >
> > I'll try and play with this when I get home tonight.
>
> Sorry to repost what's already in the thread, but:
> I'm able to get FM playing through my MythTV box with
> # ivtv-radio -f 90.3

sadly, all I get is noise from mine...

--
Steve