[mythtv-users] TapeWorm - a Mea Culpa.

[Isaac Richards]

On Friday 07 April 2006 00:08, Maverick wrote:
> Isaac,
>
> > Sure, it's valuable to those running windows.  I certainly won't disagree
> > with that.  And because it _is_ valuable to those users, I'm fine with
> > the occasional release announcement.  Just not 50+ support messages.
>
> Would you be apposed to creating a "third party utils/plugins" type
> list to talk about "unofficial" myth related software? I know multiple
> lists fragments the community a bit, but it seems it's better to at
> least archive all this stuff in the same place (gossamer) for point of
> reference.

Define unofficial?  Far as I'm aware, most of the unofficial plugins are 
already discussed fairly extensively here, with a very few, very specific 
exceptions.  There's a big ole list of non-official stuff on the wiki, and I 
think some of those plugins/addons have pages in there somewhere as well.

If there was enough support for another mailing list, sure, I could do that.  
I'd be hesitant to add another list, but if enough people want one that's 
cool.  I've pondered a hardware-specific list at various times over the years 
as well.  There'd be a _lot_ of 'use list X' messages, though, which is a 
pain to deal with.  Also, FWIW the trac ticket emails go to the commits list 
because I didn't want to make a couple thousand people decide if they wanted 
to sign up for yet another list.

I've also thought about providing hosting space/svn/trac/lists/etc for 
non-official myth-related stuff (that meets certain guidelines - opensource, 
won't tend to get me into trouble, not a complete distro for bandwidth 
reasons, etc) as well, but I'm not sure how useful that'd be to anybody, 
since sourceforge/etc generally work for all that stuff.

> > Just to make it a little clearer, I'd have much less of a problem if the
> > donation were just a suggestion rather than "required".  I'd even support
> > it (ie, link from mythtv.org) if it were open source.  Querying the db
> > and displaying a list takes what, a couple hundred lines of python max? 
> > However you license your work is, of course, completely up to you.  It'd
> > just fit in better here if it were open source. =)
>
> These types of recommendations should be under some sort of
> "guidelines for developing myth-related-ware", and maybe they are.
> Might help to better understand your
> point of view toward non-open source and apparent hatred of Windows
> software.

What's Windows have to do with any of this?  Windows support is pretty much 
the #1 request I get from people.  Well, that or messages saying 'Winzip 
won't open up this weird "tar.bz2" file', which I count as a request for 
Windows support. =)  Having the full frontend run on windows would be 
excellent.

I work on non-free, commercial software (for Windows + Linux + other random 
OS's occasionally) for my real job.  I have no problem with that, or with 
people that decide to license their software as something that's not open 
source.  That's completely up to them.

I just don't like _this list_ being used as a support forum for a non-free 
piece of software.  I don't think that's unreasonable, but maybe it is to 
some people.  That's _all_ this was about, until people started going waaay 
off topic with that bogus GPL stuff or misreading what I said.  I probably 
could have worded my email better, but, <shrug>, can't change it now.  People 
with personal issues with me read whatever they want to into what I write 
pretty much regardless.

Isaac