[mythtv-users] Re: mythtv-users Digest, Vol 34, Issue 180
tahutchinson_99 at yahoo.com
Thu Jan 5 23:00:42 UTC 2006
>> I'm considering purchasing a Samsung 4667W TV.
>> TV has 2 firewire input/output ports. I realize
>> myth does not currently support recording from the
>> FireWire ports of TVs, but it is something that I
>> would like to try--it should be similar to using
>> FireWire on a cable box, right? I came across an
>> article in "The Perfect Vision" magazine about
>> FireWire output on another Samsung TV. To quote
>> "I attempted to make a recording on an RCA DVR,
>> The HL-R5668 had no problem recognizing the RCA
>> and the set was able to play and fast-scan any of
>> recordings I had previously stored on it. However,
>> Samsung would not allow me to record any new cable
>> content on the DVR. Instead, it displayed an
>> notice that the content was copy-protected. This
>> occurred with my local digital-broadcast channels
>> (terrestrial channels that are rebroadcast on
>> cable) as well as premium content such as HBO. Copy
>> restrictions are prohibited on rebroadcast
>> so that couldn't have been the problem.
>> "I finally learned from Samsung that the
>> does not have a PID (Program Identifier) filter.
>> filter is essential for recording digital-cable
>> signals, which carry two complete HD channels in
>> same 6MHz bandwidth as single-channel over-the-air
>> broadcasts. A program ID filter allows only one
>> channel to pass through the FireWire cable to the
>> recorder, which can't record two channels at once.
>> The Samsung rep I spoke with assured me that
>> recordings of terrestrial broadcasts can be
>> but I didn't try it."
>> So, if I understand this correctly, it's not
>> to record from the TVs firewire ports if it is fed
>> cable TV signal. (I realize that I could use the
>> firewire output from the cable box instead). But,
>> I use an antenna to recieve channels OTA, will I
>> the same problem. Do you concur?
>> Ultimately, I'd like to use mythtv to record from
>> FireWire output of the TV. Is there any hope of
>> that with this TV? I did read the thread from a
>> couple of weeks ago about using HAVi to control a
>> TV--might be fun to try with this TV, if I can get
>> over the above problem.
> there is no copy protection for OTA, why would there
be, they're giving
> it out
> for free to begin with.
> As for recording *from* the tv, is this so you can
record OTA stuff? I
> see when you would otherwise want to be able to do
this when you could
> connect the device your feeding the TV into the
I understand that there is no copy protection on OTA,
but according to the article that I quoted, the
Samsung TV is copy protecting OTA channels that come
over cable because they don't have the appropriate
program ID filters to identify one of two channels.
Two reasons that I want to be able to record from the
1. Yes, I want to record OTA. I don't want to be
dependent on having cable to record HD.
2. If I someday use a cable card in this TV, I want to
be able to record the cable from the TV's firewire
I am being a bit cheap, since I know I could by an HD
card for the computer for $100-$200, but, why should
I? I also don't have a spare PCI slot for another
card in my ASUS Pundit.
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