[mythtv-users] possible p2p approach for mythtv information?

Vijay Gill vijay.s.gill at gmail.com
Mon Jul 3 15:05:11 UTC 2006


On 03/07/06, Aaron Harwood <aharwood at aerosoul.com.au> wrote:
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> On 04/07/2006, at 12:03 AM, tom roth wrote:
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> > The idea of sharing other information has been discussed in the past
> > on thsi list also, and I think one of the major problems would be
> > ensuring people don't screw up the data (possibly deliberatly).  For
> > example, someone could flag part of a programme as a commercial, which
> > would effect everyone who relies on that data.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Whytey
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> For cutlist info you are probably right, but what i came up with recently is
> trusted networks for recommendations on recordings. Think of it as gnus (the
> emacs newsreader) for videos.
>
> This could work as follows:
> Configure MythRecommendation to use a reserved part of your strorage
> (basicaly a quota).
> Until this quota is reached mythtv would start recording any recomendations
> it  gets.
> Next a ruleset will give weight to the recommendating person, the channel,
> keywords in the titel etc.. based by your behaviour or explicit settings.
>
> When you delete a recording without watching it 5 points are taken from the
> person, 2 from the channel, 1 from the keywords, whatever.
> When you  do a cutlist on the recording  points are added to person ,
> channel ...
> When you archive the movie even more points are given.
> After a while you should find interesting recordings, that you would have
> missed  otherwise.
>
> what do you think ?
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> Sounds to me like you are creating "networks of interest" or "interest
> groups" since not everyone has the same viewing
> preferences and people with similar viewing interests would naturally
> reinforce each others recommendations. The
> basic interest groups would be those that receive the same service, i.e. the
> same broadcasts (since it does not make
> any sense to take a recommendation for a recording that is not even being
> broadcast in my area).
>
> For arguments sake I'm assuming that my own recording selections
> automatically become recommendations for others,
> as a default setting. To add some spice, it would be good for me to receive
> feedback, i.e. if my recommendation is
> not accepted by other peers then I should be notified of this, and similarly
> if it is archived. This would allow me to not
> broadcast recommendations that are known to be unacceptable, thus reducing
> traffic (i.e. rather than be dropped at
> the other end).
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> You'd need sensible ways of dealing with conflicts (i.e. there are limited
> inputs available and like many recommendations
> that cover many more channels than available inputs) and with spam
> recommendations. Negative reinforcement can
> eliminate a given IP address but spam will likely use fake IP addresses that
> could flood the incoming recommendations
> with faulty or biased data. I guess you are suggesting a ranking scheme that
> admits high ranking recommendations over
> low ones. But then this makes it harder for newer and odd recommendations to
> enter  the system. There is a trade off
> that would be interesting to explore.
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> I like it. What approach would the interconnectivity/peer discovery take?
> Gnutella? Napster? something else?
>
> -a
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> PS>I'm sure that the broadcasters would love to know what people are
> recording! No doubt they would have a peer in
> the system as well, monitoring what is being recorded! (or at least, what
> people are recommending to record)
>
Even cut list cannot be shared because of the following reason:
Programs are sometimes delayed here in Ireland because of some reason
or the other. To get around this problem, I always start recordings 5
minutes early and end 10 minutes late.

Now how can the cut-list be shared in such a case? I don't think so
until some AI is built into mythtv.


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