[mythtv-users] CableCard???

[Fedor Pikus]

On 11/13/06, Viitasaari <public at viitasaari.ca> wrote:
> The thing that's kind of strange is that the content providers seem to
> think they have something of value to provide.

They do. Not to you, but to people who make laws.

>
> Most of the content is junk...  If I look at my music and movie
> collection only about 1% of it is any good.  This pretty well goes the
> same with my digital satellite streams....257 channels and nothing on.
>
> I guess that's one of the perils of being addicted to junk food.
>
> Hedghog
>
> On Mon, 2006-11-13 at 15:01 -0800, Fedor Pikus wrote:
> > On 11/13/06, Viitasaari <public at viitasaari.ca> wrote:
> > > Hmmmm....so strange.
> > >
> > > One would think that $100/month would keep a service provider happy.
> >
> > Not that provider. CableCo by  itself probably could not care less,
> > but the content providers seem to have everybody by the balls, and
> > they would not be happy if you paid them $100/month (and you don't,
> > CableCo pays them a share of it for programming but not all of it).
> > Now, you you paid them everything you have except $100/month, then may
> > be they would be happy. But probably not, that last $100 would keep
> > them awake at night until they figure out a way to get it.
> >
> > >
> > > When this kind of greed pervades it's no wonder people get a little bent
> > > and try to start bringing down the system.  Who knows...maybe just being
> > > able to send this message may be a luxury one day.
> > >
> > > I guess all the big guys don't realize how much they really have to
> > > lose.  Or maybe it's simply one of the most common strategies used in
> > > many wars throughout the ages...if you can't control it then destroy it.
> > >
> > > Hedgehog
> > >
> > > On Mon, 2006-11-13 at 14:37 -0700, Brian Wood wrote:
> > > > On Nov 13, 2006, at 2:23 PM, Viitasaari wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Lets say that the service providers succeed in providing an end-to-end
> > > > > encryption scheme and the hardware vendors succeed in providing
> > > > > hardware
> > > > > to everyone who uses the service providers schemes.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now the question remains that if I payed for all my services and
> > > > > purchased all the proper hardware would that not give me the right to
> > > > > decrypt my system?
> > > > >
> > > > > This raises the question of whether it is illegal to attempt to break
> > > > > encryption schemes when you are paying to have it delivered and you
> > > > > are
> > > > > paying for the hardware to display it.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think the only way this would stand up in court is if the service
> > > > > providers and the hardware vendors can prove that their content is
> > > > > private in nature.
> > > > >
> > > > > A/V streams from service providers is public in nature!
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sounds like you haven't read the DMCA. At least in the US the
> > > > situation is absolutely insane. It is technically illegal for me to
> > > > watch a DVD that I have paid for on a Linux system that I have paid
> > > > for. It is also illegal for me to make an archival copy of a DVD that
> > > > I have paid for to protect myself against my dog chewing up the
> > > > original disk.
> > > >
> > > > The content owners have simply bought off the legislators in order to
> > > > get laws passed that go way beyond common sense, and I see no chance
> > > > of this changing in the forseeable future.
> > > >
> > > > The situation is simply nuts, but the carriers are scared of being
> > > > sued by the content providers so they bend to their will. I'm sure
> > > > they will get some form of their "broadcast flag" sooner or later, so
> > > > buy what you can now :-)
> > > >
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