[mythtv-users] Zap2it Labs Shutting Down?

[Kevin Hulse]

On Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 12:36:36PM -0500, Kevin Kuphal wrote:
> On 6/21/07, Michael Jones <mythlist at michaelandholly.com> wrote:
> >
> >I think the foundation idea is a very good one.
> >
> >Here's my thoughts:
> >
> >There are a few significant unknowns surrounding this whole situation.
> >
> >1)  What is Isaac (and the dev team) figuring out with the current
> >situation - they might be anywhere from minutes to months/years away
> >from figuring out a valid solution that will satisfy everyone.
> >
> >2)  If the dev team is not able to figure out an amicable solution
> >with TMS, is TMS willing to share their data with a not-for-profit
> >foundation at a discounted rate.. or somesuch arrangement.
> >
> >From what limited information we've seen so far.. I would guess the
> >answer is no.. but this is only speculation in the absence of better
> >information.
> >
> >3)  If TMS is unwilling to share their data for Nonprofit at a
> >significantly reduced rate, where will the operating capitol for the
> >initial outlay of cash to TMS for the licensing come from - I'm sure
> >they'll want their $$ up front for the subscription to the data.   Do
> >we just start taking donations and hope we reach "critical mass"
> >before September?
> >
> >With all of this speculation flying around wouldn't it be nice to
> >have a fly on the wall during Isaac's discussions with TMS?   Until
> >we hear more.. I don't think ANYTHING can happen?
> >
> >- comments?
> >
> 
> We all had listings just fine before DataDirect in the form of XMLTV.  Why
> is this issue being talked to death when we can just verify XMLTV works (it
> works fine for people outside the US so I can only assume it is still
> functional) and be done with it?

	...because in the eyes of the law we would all probably be
seen as thieves and treated accordingly should TMS press the issue.
Ideally, we would have our own source of data that no one else can
monkey around with. The value of TMS as an integrator is limited
at this point and that value is shrinking.