[mythtv-users] Custom Schedule Help

[Drew Tomlinson]

On 3/10/2007 8:09 PM Bruce Markey said the following:

>I've read this several times but there is some key info
>missing that makes it hard to understand what you are
>trying to do and why. Here are my best guesses =).
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Sorry I wasn't clear.  Thanks for your guesses.  :)

>Drew Tomlinson wrote:
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>>I have a backend with two tuners.  One is a PVR-250 connected to a 
>>DirecTV box.  The other is a pcHDTV 3000 that receives ATSC over the air.
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>>My goal is to create custom schedules so that either card can be used if 
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>I'm not sure this is correct. It sounds like your goal ought
>to be that want to correctly record shows like "Judge Joe Brown".
>Whether or not power search rules are needed remains to be seen.
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Yes you are correct.  That's a much better way of putting it.

>If you do want to learn to make good use of Custom Record, see:
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>http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-12.html#ss12.5
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I will give it another read.

>>it's free when recording regular local channels.  One such example is to 
>>record Judge Joe Brown which is shown at 12:00 pm and again at 12:30 pm 
>>on both channel 31 (KMAX) and channel 31_1 (KMAX_1).  Thus I have 
>>created the following power search
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>A key piece of info here is if these have specific programids
>like EP2775792582 or 'generic' like SH2775790000. The SH%0000
>form just says that it is an episode of the series but doesn't
>say which episode.
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I just checked the program table and found both.  If interested, you can 
see the output of my query here:

http://drew.mykitchentable.net/Temp/Joe_Brown.html

>>program.title = 'Judge Joe Brown'
>>AND channel.callsign IN ('KMAX','KMAX-1')
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>Here I'm going to infer that there is a DirecTV channel that
>carries 'KMAX' and there is an ATSC channel with 'KMAX-1'. I'm
>going to guess that these both carry programming from the same
>TV station. However, myth doesn't know that. It looks like two
>stations such as ESPN and ESPN2.
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Yes, DirecTV carries my local OTA stations.  My pcHDTV card can only get 
the digital stations.  Thus KMAX is local channel 31 and is available 
from my DirecTV receiver.  KMAX-1 is the OTA digital broadcast from the 
same local station on 31_1.

>You may have thought that listing the two station would cause
>it to pick one else the other. This is not true. I matches any
>showings in any order. [BTW one of the Custom Record examples
>is "Match related callsigns". You could have used this to set
>"channel.callsign LIKE 'KMAX%'" but I don't think this is going
>to matter in the end. ;-]
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I understand.

>>This almost accomplishes what I want.  However when the listing 
>>information is such that MythTV can not tell they are the same show, it 
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>I get specific episodes for this title but I'll guess yours are
>generic...
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>>records both.  Is there some way to tell MythTV to record one or the 
>>other?  I looked at the "Find and record one showing of this title each 
>>day" but that doesn't work for me as I really want two showings.
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>>Suggestions?
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>Yes. I think what you really want is to tell myth that both of
>these channels carry "KMAX". That will say that these are both
>from the same station and only one KMAX show at 12:00 then one
>at 12:30 need to be recorded. You can simply set an All rule or
>Channel for KMAX and it should just work. Which channel is chosen
>first then becomes the question.
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Yes, you have guessed correctly again.  :)  So are you saying that I 
should edit the sourcid field of the channels table so that my digital 
stations match the regular local stations when programming is 
identical?  I think that *IS* what I really want.  Is there anything I 
need to do other than edit the table directly?

>My suggestion is to grab a beverage, sit back and read through this:
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>http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-12.html#ss12.6
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>You could tell it if you prefer DirecTV or ATSC for any shows
>by changing the number order of the inputs, input priority,
>channel priority or per rule preferred input. Each of these
>serves a different purpose but in any case, if the KMAX that
>you asked for is not available, it will fail over to the other.
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>Hope this helps,
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It helps a lot. In fact, your suggestion answers another question I 
have.  I've been wondering if there was a way to prefer one tuner over 
another for individual shows.  For example, when I know the show is not 
in HD, I'd rather have the DirecTV tuner record the show as it doesn't 
take up nearly as much disk space as the pcHDTV tuner.  I think the 
above will solve that "want".

Thank you very much!

Drew

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