[mythtv-users] Upgrading to 0.21-fixes on Ubuntu 7.10?
James Crow
james at ultratans.com
Thu Aug 28 15:42:26 UTC 2008
On Thu, 2008-08-28 at 16:24 +0100, Nicolas Will wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-08-28 at 15:51 +0100, Mike Dent wrote:
> > 2008/8/27 Marc Randolph <mrand at pobox.com>:
> > > On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Mike Dent <mcdent at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> Hi, what is my best way to upgrade from 0.21.0-0ubuntu1~gutsy1 to
> > 0.21
> > >> fixes on Ubuntu 7.10 ?
> > >> Are there some kind of packages upgrade I can use?
> > >
> > > Hopefully Mario or one of the other maintainers will speak up and
> > say
> > > if there is an easy way to get the weekly fixes on a 7.10 system.
> >
> > Thanks for your reply, nothing back from anybody else so far though.
>
> The Mythbuntu guys only offered MythTV 0.21 for Ubuntu 7.10.
>
> For 0.21-fixes, you have to upgrade to Ubuntu 8.10.
>
>
> >
> >
> > >
> > >> I see there is an option in mythubuntu to do some kind of upgrade
> > on an existing
> > >> Ubuntu box, I'm wondering if this will trash my existing myth
> > system running on this box, or
> > >> perhaps there is a safer way?
> > >
> > > I guess this is referring to the option of doing an upgrade to 8.04?
> > > Quite a large number of people in the world have successfully
> > upgraded
> > > to 8.04 - but some people have run into non-trival regressions.
> > Many
> > > have been addressed since the initial release though. You could try
> > > googling each piece of your hardware to see if people have had
> > trouble
> > > with it/them on 8.04.
>
> Upgrades of apt-based distros usually are no problem at all, as long as
> the quality control is correct.
>
> Ubuntu's quality control is correct, even if it may be a tad below
> Debian's.
>
>
> >
> > Does that mean if I upgraded to 8.04 that the fixes packages are
> > readily available then?
> >
> > I saw some mention of an upgrade of an existing Ubuntu + myth setup ->
> > mythbuntu?
>
> Let's make things clear.
>
> The team maintaining Mythbuntu is the original team maintaining the
> MythTV packages in Ubuntu. So no disconnect there.
>
> Mythbuntu = Ubuntu with the MythTV packages available in the official
> Ubuntu repositories.
>
> What did the Mythbuntu guys add on top of that?
> * a few config tools (Mythbuntu Control Center, remote config
> stuff)
> * a lot of polishing in the install
> * utility scripts already setup
> * theming from splash to MythTV
> * diskless FE easy deployment
> * a specific live and install CD that will install a MythTV box
> with a lot of ease (and not a Desktop) or run a Frontend without
> install
> * a few other things
>
> http://mythbuntu.org/image/tid/10
>
> Mythbuntu has its own repositories too. They offer 2 things: up-to-date
> and tested MythTV 0.21-fixes or MythTV trunk packages.
>
> You can choose to add 0.21-fixes and benefit from regular fixes.
>
> So, all in all, al this allows you to forget about one thing I am
> hearing regularly here:
>
> "If it works at any point in type, stop touching it or you are garanteed
> to break it."
>
> Proper packaging quality control and a proper package management system
> should allow you to upgrade as often as you wish without sweating
> bullets.
>
>
> > Is this possible whilst preserving my existing myth config, database
> > etc?
>
> Absolutely. I did, on the FE+BE machine and a few FE machines around it.
> The packages have all the good stuff inside to upgrade everything
> correctly without bothering you.
>
> So, how do you do it.
>
> Ubuntu 7.10 / MythTV 0.20 -> Ubuntu 8.10 / MythTV 0.21 upgrade
> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
>
> Adding the 0.21-fixes prepared by the Mythbuntu team
> http://mythbuntu.org/auto-builds
>
> You may be interested in the Mythbuntu-specific tools
> sudo apt-get install mythbuntu-control-center
>
> Nico
> http://www.youplala.net/linux/home-theater-pc
>
>
I would add that Mythbuntu 8.10 is not yet out of alpha. I run 8.04.1,
the current stable version.
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