[mythtv-users] Samsung CRT HD 32" TV WS32Z30HE

bhaskins at chartermi.net bhaskins at chartermi.net
Mon Sep 14 01:24:25 UTC 2009


---- Tortise <tortise at paradise.net.nz> wrote: 
> If this TV is a native 1080i , why bother with 720p ...
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> The main reason I prefer 720p is that the default desktop icons and text are readable at good distance, whereas using 1080i makes 
> all those things cross the bridge into poorly readable - as they are smaller - and also seem more liney.  I made those observations 
> using a Sony 32' "HD" CRT (DA32) - that also takes 720p/1080i inputs and I expect the Samsung to be similar, but clearly not the 
> same.  In terms of video quality difference between 720p and 1080i, the only differences seems to be speed (e.g. car racing) is 
> clearer with the 720p in/540p out compared to more blurriness noted using 1080i which makes sense considering xp (not the microsoft 
> type!) is generally better for speed and xi is better for still landscape scenes.  More testing is in order to be sure about this 
> however on balance the 720p/540p may be preferable to interlaced 1080i/xi on these CRT tubes.
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> Incidentally, anticipating the question about why not just go LCD, the blacks, colours and viewing angles are excellent - superior 
> to most LCD.  Size for size CRT and LCD uses much the same power, with LCD probably having only a minor edge. Tube life may also 
> exceed LCD as the LCD backlight over time degrades in performance, I am not aware that CRT's do that.

Actually the LCD wins on all of the above except for viewing angle but
it's really doesn't mean much because most of our electronics will die within
about 3 to 5 years do to tin whiskers and/or connection problems related
to getting the lead out.
Already seeing lots of this in gear not even two yours old.
Aerospace and military gear is generally exempt from this ROHS
B!@# S!@# .... what does that tell you.

Just another one of those wonderful gifts from the anointed ruling class.


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> While the mentioned Sony's take 720p in, I understand internally it is downscaled to 540p - as the CRT tubes are not fast enough to 
> scan electrons @ full 720p.  Most of the 1080i is probably also downscaled to ~600 to 800i (guestimate).  These things are to some 
> degree easy to prove (input not the same as output, not so easy to show what the output actually is) and be readily demonstrated 
> using test videos and images with alternating pixel wide lines - which confirms 720p/1080i horizontal lines are not seen by the 
> user, although the image remains noticeably superior to SD 576i.  (Anyone thinking that the question of whether viewers are cheated 
> might be a consideration here might be understandable for thinking such things!)
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> Here they are just in case:
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> Many thanks Jean-Yves.  I'll let people know what works. 
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