[mythtv-users] 0.22 MythVideo slow first time cover art displays

greg greg12866 at nycap.rr.com
Tue Sep 29 20:27:07 UTC 2009


Kevin Kuphal wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Robert McNamara
> <robert.mcnamara at gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Kevin Kuphal <kkuphal at gmail.com> wrote:
>>     
>>> It's a shame that this happens at all.  I've been setting up a Vista
>>> Media Center machine to place in front of my exercise equipment so
>>> that I can get Hulu, Netflix, DVD, etc all in one box.  It has a
>>> plugin called Media Browser that basically does a cover flow style
>>> view of recordings/videos using fanart from the same places Myth gets
>>> it from.
>>>
>>> This software handles all the cover art download in the background and
>>> it just fades in as it is made available.  So much nicer of an
>>> experience than what you are describing and I'm disappointed that a
>>> background thread handling of coverart isn't being included.
>>>       
>> I'm disappointed that Myth doesn't make me coffee and bacon in the
>> morning, but nobody has written the code for that, either.
>>
>> I (and others) would surely welcome such a patch, but given the
>> numerous hours I know one particular dev who knows MythUI backwards
>> and forward has spent on this particular issue, I know for a fact that
>> it's not as simple as that...
>>
>> Nobody is "not including" their patches, this stuff is *hard*.
>>     
>
> Of course it is and nothing about what I said diminishes the effort or
> appreciation for it.  Why does any criticism of the "status quo"
> result in a return response insinuating a lack of appreciation for the
> work already put in?  Isn't it valid in a software development project
> to bring up points related to release cycle timing and included
> features?  I've commited a handful of things here and there to MythTV
> and I know it's hard.  The UI pieces are far beyond my ability for
> sure.
>
> It is obvious that the fanart/coverart feature is one that is highly
> valued by the community given the discussions I see here.  I know I'm
> very anxious to have it on my system.  My point here is that in this
> instance, and with others such as metadata download for Watch
> Recordings (also included in Graphite which is in SVN and distributed
> with Myth now), that it has a "half-baked" feeling about it.  Not that
> it lacks quality, but that it more unfinished than I would expect for
> a release.  I personally would have rather seen fanart left out of
> 0.22 and included in 0.23 with all these usability questions ironed
> out.  Waiting 2-3s for browsing media may not seem like a big deal
> given that it's a one time thing.  But it just brings up the idea that
> it *could* happen in the background and not impact the UI.  If this is
> on the roadmap, great.  It's happened before with the scheduler
> "hanging" the frontend while we wait for it to finish and the frontend
> was improved so that this isn't much of an issue anymore.  Driving
> things with background events seems a given for today's software to
> me, especially one that, generally speaking, is very quick in most
> operations as it stands currently.  I guess in the end my point was
> simply expressing a concern over timing of a release including this
> feature if such improvements are coming in the next release since it
> is a brand new feature for 0.22.
>
> I'm a huge fan of MythTV and certainly don't like any part of it being
> unduly criticized, especially if the criticism could have been avoided
> through a different timing of when features were
> added/committed/released.
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My system don't exhibit these problems..It is almost instantaneous.. I 
also think the fan/cover art is a great feature and i appreciate  the 
work that has been put into it..I lurk on IRC and have seen what it has 
taken to get even as far as it has..
Honestly from my prospective this conversion has been a enormous 
task...I think lesser men would have been burnt out months ago...



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