[mythtv-users] OT: SCOTUS decision

Greg Oliver oliver.greg at gmail.com
Mon Feb 22 15:03:44 UTC 2010


On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 11:26 PM, David Brodbeck <gull at gull.us> wrote:
> R. G. Newbury wrote:
>>
>> ...when reality forces us to do things which we are morally entitled to
>> do, and which match what the other side does...but of course we are not
>> *allowed* to do that! We have to stop thinking we are doing wrong when we
>> fight by war rules. The whineys want us to fight by civil rules, while the
>> bad guys can use war rules.
>
> Which is it?  "Things we are morally entitled to do," or "things the other
> side does"?  Because the whole point is we're supposed to be better than the
> other side, isn't it?  How can we claim to be a moral nation if we abandon
> our morals whenever they're inconvenient?
>
> The rules we're playing by are definitely not "war rules."  War rules say
> things that we currently find inconvenient, like that you can't torture
> prisoners and you have to release them when hostilities end.  Those are not
> the rules we're playing by now.
>
> All I'm saying is, when the government starts saying that they have to have
> the right to detain someone without trial indefinitely, *because we don't
> have enough evidence to convict them of a crime*...that's a bit scary, no
> matter who's in office.  It's reminiscent of the way the Soviet Union used
> to "disappear" people they found inconvenient.  Keep in mind, *they* thought
> they were the good guys and were simply dealing with a mortal threat to
> *their* existence, too.

This is a topic that a lot of us have strong opinions on.  That said,
it is also a topic I do not want to read about on a mailing list I
like to read.

*Please* bicker privately if you want to continue the argument...

Thanks


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