[mythtv-users] US Broadcasting bastards

[Michael T. Dean]

On 02/25/2010 10:05 PM, Kevin Kuphal wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Rodd Clarkson wrote:
>    
>> On Fri, 2010-02-26 at 14:32 +1300, Nick Rout wrote:
>>      
>>> On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Rodd Clarkson wrote:
>>>        
>>>>>> If they are on the same channel, I have often mused that Myth could handle that by writing that 5 minutes of what will be post-roll on the first show and pre-roll on the second show (i.e. it's the same 5 minutes in time for both) to both files.
>>>>>>              
>>>>> And MythTV will do exactly this for digital channels on the same
>>>>> multiplex (including the same channel) on a digital capture card with
>>>>> multirec enabled.
>>>>>            
>>>> This doesn't seem to work for me.
>>>>
>>>> I have set up recordings to start 2 minutes early and record over ten
>>>> minutes by default (Setup ->  Setup ->  TV Settings ->  General - General
>>>> (Advanced).
>>> That is "soft" pre and post roll, it will be ignored for back to back
>>> recordings.
>>>
>>>
>>> The per recording rule post and pre roll are "hard" and will be
>>> honoured, even if you miss a show because there are not enough tuners.
>>>        
>> This is what I figured was happening.
>>
>> Two thoughts on how this could be better.
>>
>> 1. The scheduler could use different inputs (on the same tuner) where
>> possible for back to back recordings so that this is still honored.
>>
>> 2. The could be an option in these soft settings to the record the
>> start/end even if the programs are back to back (like it will if you set
>> this up in the actual recording rules.)
>>
>> As many AU people have mentioned, show times are a little fluid.
>>      

Read the entire thread at 
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/195124#195124 or please 
don't ever suggest that (2) again.  :)

>> I regularly watch two back to back shows on a sunday night and it's
>> annoying having the start of one show on the end of another (I want the
>> whole show in each recording) and there's no reason why since these are
>> back to back that the software values couldn't be honored on the same
>> input.
>>      

So fix your recording rules.  This is *not* a bug, but a 
misconfiguration of your system.  You're abusing the "Time to record 
before start of show (in seconds)" and "Time to record past end of show 
(in seconds)" settings.

>> Is this bug worthy and how do I file a feature request?
>>      
> No, and you don't.  There is no official feature request method.  There is a
> space in the wiki where people have collected ideas but I'm sure this is not
> a new one.
>    

Kevin is 100% correct.  That said, someone else didn't understand 
http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/wiki/TicketHowTo , so we got 
http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/6382 (and 
http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/2604 and 
http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/3496 ).

> There was quite a bit of work done by developers on a "softpad" branch to
> achieve these goals.  You can google/search the archives for MythTV and
> softpad to get a sense of the effort involved and even the end result.  Rest
> assured, it wasn't as simple an issue as it appears on the surface as the
> scheduler is more than a A + B = C calculation.
>    

Heh, that's the one I linked above.  :)  See, also, the official ticket 
for it at http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/255 .  It became a "Feature 
Request *With* a Patch", but the changes were deemed too dangerous: 
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/238199#238199 .

Mike