[mythtv-users] Hauppauge 1950, was: (no subject)

Rafic Gho rghoogas at gmail.com
Thu Sep 30 23:32:57 UTC 2010


Thank you for your advise.

On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Brian Wood <beww at beww.org> wrote:

> On Thursday, September 30, 2010 05:20:54 pm Simon Hobson wrote:
> > Rafic Gho wrote:
> > >so if I get the supported tuner,  then does it recocognize the tuner
> > >without loading the driver?
> >
> > I'm guessing you've come from a Windows background and Linux is new
> > to you. It takes a fair bit of adjustment to the many significant
> > differences.
> >
> > Generalising and simplifying somewhat ...
> >
> > In the Windows world, many common devices are supported by Windows
> > "out of the box" - they still have a driver, it's just that Microsoft
> > supply one and it's installed by default. When you buy new hardware,
> > it typically comes with a disk for you to install a driver from -
> > either because the manufacturer has a better one than Microsoft
> > supply (eg it supports all the hardware features rather than just a
> > selection of generic ones) or because Microsoft don't supply one at
> > all.
> > Because Windows is such a dominant OS, no hardware manufacturer would
> > consider shipping hardware without a Windows driver.
> >
> > Now, over in the Linux world things are different. We still need
> > device drivers, but the difference is that (in general) you don't get
> > a disk with a Linux driver with your new hardware. Things are
> > improving, but with a few notable exceptions, most vendors just
> > haven't realised that there is any other OS than Windows. Those of us
> > that use Macs have a similar problem.
> >
> > As a result, in the Linux world, it's a case of the "Linux
> > Developers"* who have to supply all the device drivers. Thus, instead
> > of installing the driver that came on a disk from your hardware
> > vendor, you are reliant on a driver for that device being part of the
> > Linux you installed. If you have something that's mature enough to
> > have a driver, then it may well already be supported by your current
> > installation and you have nothing to install. If it's something new,
> > then you may have to upgrade and/or reconfigure your kernel to get a
> > driver - the latter is, I would suggest, not something for a complete
> > newcomer to tackle.
> >
> > In your case, http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/ATSC_USB_Devices
> > shows that the device is supported from kernel version 2.6.26
> > onwards. That means plug it in, and the system should recognise it -
> > as long as you have a kernel no earlier than that. Most things are
> > "plug and play" these days, when you plug in the tuner, the USB
> > subsystem will detect the device being plugged in, interrogate it to
> > find out what it is, and load the correct driver to operate it. When
> > the driver loads, a device file will be created for it in /dev, and
> > the device is then 'visible' to any software you run.
> >
> > That is only half the story - you then have to configure Myth to use
> > it. The driver merely makes the device visible to software running on
> > your system, you need applications (of which Myth is just one) to
> > actually use it.
> > Someone posted a link to the Wiki earlier where there are step by
> > step instructions to install and configure Myth.
> >
> >
> > * I use the term fairly widely as referring to the very large group
> > of developers who contribute to the overall "package". In fact there
> > is a group running the Video for Linux section, who look after video
> > devices.
>
>
> A very good preliminary explanation, better than I would have done (I think
> you have more patience).
>
> I added a subject line, anyone wanting to use this card is unlikely to
> search for "no subject" :-)
>
> MythTV is a poor choice for a first exposure to Linux, though many people
> have been successful taking that route.
>
> To the OP: Welcome to the Myth list, and good luck with your new and vastly
> superior DVR.
>
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