[mythtv-users] Mythtv distro

Daniel Drummond dan.ddrummond at gmail.com
Thu Jul 14 12:39:49 UTC 2011


Gentoo may do things different when it comes to installing software, its still a form of package(software) management. It would not be a distro if this was the case.

Try installing usable Linux on a workstation without a distro from the "source".

Challenge accepted


On Jul 14, 2011, at 8:00 AM, mythtv-users-request at mythtv.org wrote:

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>   1. Re: WAaay OT: Just trying to pick the brains of anyone who
>      can help ... Batch txt edit insert title (Simon Hobson)
>   2. Re: PBS HD station moved (Romain Kang)
>   3. Re: Toronto, Ontario Canada MythTV talk. (aaron)
>   4. Mythtv Backend, upnp and hamachi (Steve Malenfant)
>   5. Re: Mythtv Backend, upnp and hamachi (Steve Malenfant)
>   6. Re: Mythtv Backend, upnp and hamachi (Raymond Wagner)
>   7. Re: Mythtv Backend, upnp and hamachi (Steve Malenfant)
>   8. Re: Mythtv Backend, upnp and hamachi (Raymond Wagner)
>   9. Hauppauge USB CableCard Tuner for $129! (Tom Bongiorno)
>  10. Can't tune after UK switchover (john legion)
>  11. Re: Can't tune after UK switchover (David Watkins)
>  12. Best distro for mythtv (Daniel Drummond)
>  13. Re: Hauppauge USB CableCard Tuner for $129! (Ronald Frazier)
>  14. Re: Can't tune after UK switchover (John Pilkington)
>  15. Re: Best distro for mythtv (Raymond Wagner)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 23:31:30 +0100
> From: Simon Hobson <linux at thehobsons.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] WAaay OT: Just trying to pick the brains
>    of anyone who can help ... Batch txt edit insert title
> To: mythtv-users at mythtv.org
> Message-ID: <p0624080cca43cb338977 at simon.thehobsons.co.uk>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
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> Damian wrote:
> 
>> Basically, I need to add the title of a text file to the first line of
>> the body of the same text file (followed by a couple of carridge returns
>> if possible). I then need to do this for about 400 hundreds of files!
> 
> I assume by title, you mean file name ?
> 
> I'd probably do something like :
> 
> #!/bin/bash
> 
> source_dir="/some/path/"
> dest_dir="/some/otherpath/"
> 
> cd "${source_dir}"
> for f in *
> do
>   echo "${f}
> 
> " > "${dest_dir}/${f}"
>   cat "${f}" ) >> "${dest_dir}/${f}"
> done
> 
> 
> This (apart from any errors I've probably made) should take each file 
> in the source directory, and echo it's file name and a blank line 
> followed by it's contents into a new file of the same name in a 
> different directory.
> As Richard Shaw suggests, you could use the "basename" function to 
> strip off file extensions (eg .txt) if required.
> 
> This is one of those jobs where there are multiple ways to do it - a 
> lot comes down to what tools you are familiar/comfortable with. In my 
> case Bash, others will suggest Perl, etc, etc.
> But assuming you only want to do this once, it's not worth putting a 
> lot of effort into making it "elegant" - just into making to work.
> 
> -- 
> Simon Hobson
> 
> Visit http://www.magpiesnestpublishing.co.uk/ for books by acclaimed
> author Gladys Hobson. Novels - poetry - short stories - ideal as
> Christmas stocking fillers. Some available as e-books.
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 17:00:22 -0700
> From: Romain Kang <romain at kzsu.stanford.edu>
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] PBS HD station moved
> To: Discussion about MythTV <mythtv-users at mythtv.org>
> Message-ID: <20110714000022.GA10387 at kzsu.stanford.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> Here are some empirical observations to flesh out the original poster's
> story.  I'm guessing that he's in the San Francisco Bay, as am I.  One of
> my scheduled recordings on KQED-HD (9-1) failed, and my clear QAM HDTV
> (a year 2010 LG) also "lost" the channel.
> 
> KQED's subsidiary channels (labeled "WORLD", "V-ME", etc.) remained
> accessible at the normal locations while I had to tune the TV to 67-1
> to see KQED-HD.
> 
> For reference, an hdhomerun_config scan from 19 April 2011 showed this:
>    SCANNING: 753000000 (us-irc:117, us-cable:117)
>    LOCK: qam256 (ss=82 snq=96 seq=100)
>    TSID: 0x2802
>    PROGRAM 1: 7.1 KGO-HD
>    PROGRAM 2: 9.1 KQED-HD
>    PROGRAM 3: 9.6 LIF/ENC
>    PROGRAM 7: 7.2 LIVWELL
>    PROGRAM 8: 7.3 LWSD
> 
> A hdhomerun_config from 2 July scan showed this:
>    SCANNING: 751750000 (us-hrc:117)
>    LOCK: none (ss=17 snq=0 seq=0)
>    [...]
>    SCANNING: 483000000 (us-irc:67, us-cable:67)
>    LOCK: qam256 (ss=82 snq=99 seq=100)
>    TSID: 0x2B78
>    PROGRAM 1: 0
>    PROGRAM 2: 0
>    PROGRAM 3: 0
>    PROGRAM 7: 0
>    PROGRAM 8: 0
> 
> A few days later, 67-1 disappeared and 9-1 reappeared as KQED-HD) on
> the TV.  Checking hdhomerun_config as of today, the scan now shows:
>    SCANNING: 483000000 (us-irc:67, us-cable:67)
>    LOCK: qam256 (ss=82 snq=100 seq=100)
>    TSID: 0x2B78
>    PROGRAM 1: 7.1 KGO-HD
>    PROGRAM 2: 9.1 KQED-HD
>    PROGRAM 3: 9.6 LIF/ENC
>    PROGRAM 7: 7.2 LIVWELL
>    PROGRAM 8: 7.3 LWSD
> 
> Regards,
> Romain Kang                             Disclaimer: I speak for myself alone,
> romain at kzsu.stanford.edu                except when indicated otherwise.
> 
> 
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> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 20:45:25 -0400
> From: aaron <memoryguy at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Toronto, Ontario Canada MythTV talk.
> To: Discussion about MythTV <mythtv-users at mythtv.org>
> Message-ID:
>    <CAP35rYp9n9D3RerCoLb9VJKkcSgYMdkt5NwbWs4rX3NyhFzKXQ at mail.gmail.com>
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> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 15:05, Colin McGregor <colin.mc151 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I will be giving a talk on MythTV at the FreeGeek Toronto warehouse/office (http://freegeektoronto.org/about-us/location/ ) this Thursday starting at 6:30 PM. Since space is somewhat limited, there is a sign-up process noted below:
>> 
> 
> Hi Colin,
> 
> If this is similar to the talk you gave last year, I would suggest
> anyone who is interested to go; I enjoyed your previous talk.
> 
> I would love to attend and even try to lend a hand with installs, but
> I have previous commitments.
> 
> aaron
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 21:43:36 -0400
> From: Steve Malenfant <smalenfant at gmail.com>
> Subject: [mythtv-users] Mythtv Backend, upnp and hamachi
> To: Discussion about mythtv <mythtv-users at mythtv.org>
> Message-ID:
>    <CAHUF_MYjT49d7aoE9tEzqacW1CFBzrt5Lw5q6sLEyuZ59hpBJA at mail.gmail.com>
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> 
> I got a problem here where the upnp packets are always sent on the
> ham0 (hamachi) interface in linux. Although my routers are fine for
> all multicast to go out eth0.
> 
> Anybody knows why Mythtv doesn't bind to the proper interface? Anyway
> to force it?
> I added the 239.0.0.0 as well, but that makes no difference since
> 224.0.0.0 was present... Was checking somebody's post.
> 
> steve at ubuntu:~$ route
> Kernel IP routing table
> Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
> 192.168.1.0     *               255.255.255.0   U     1      0        0 eth0
> link-local      *               255.255.0.0     U     1000   0        0 eth0
> 5.0.0.0         *               255.0.0.0       U     0      0        0 ham0
> 239.0.0.0       *               255.0.0.0       U     0      0        0 eth0
> 224.0.0.0       *               240.0.0.0       U     0      0        0 eth0
> default         DD-WRT          0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth0
> 
> steve at ubuntu:~$ sudo tcpdump -e -nn -c 100 -i any host 239.255.255.250
> tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode
> listening on any, link-type LINUX_SLL (Linux cooked), capture size 96 bytes
> 21:31:54.709793   M 7a:79:05:91:bb:5e ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length
> 177: 5.145.x.x.52124 > 239.255.255.250.1900: UDP, length 133
> 21:31:57.709438   M 7a:79:05:91:bb:5e ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length
> 177: 5.145.x.x.52124 > 239.255.255.250.1900: UDP, length 133
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 21:47:24 -0400
> From: Steve Malenfant <smalenfant at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv Backend, upnp and hamachi
> To: Discussion about mythtv <mythtv-users at mythtv.org>
> Message-ID:
>    <CAHUF_MaPiB54TesnAk9sgM2mHGBM-zUUAW=gDn6xZhpi2tRmdw at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> I'm sorry, the hamachi IP here was my laptop, not the Myth server.
> Please forgive me.
> 
> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Steve Malenfant <smalenfant at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I got a problem here where the upnp packets are always sent on the
>> ham0 (hamachi) interface in linux. Although my routers are fine for
>> all multicast to go out eth0.
>> 
>> Anybody knows why Mythtv doesn't bind to the proper interface? Anyway
>> to force it?
>> I added the 239.0.0.0 as well, but that makes no difference since
>> 224.0.0.0 was present... Was checking somebody's post.
>> 
>> steve at ubuntu:~$ route
>> Kernel IP routing table
>> Destination ? ? Gateway ? ? ? ? Genmask ? ? ? ? Flags Metric Ref ? ?Use Iface
>> 192.168.1.0 ? ? * ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 255.255.255.0 ? U ? ? 1 ? ? ?0 ? ? ? ?0 eth0
>> link-local ? ? ?* ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 255.255.0.0 ? ? U ? ? 1000 ? 0 ? ? ? ?0 eth0
>> 5.0.0.0 ? ? ? ? * ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 255.0.0.0 ? ? ? U ? ? 0 ? ? ?0 ? ? ? ?0 ham0
>> 239.0.0.0 ? ? ? * ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 255.0.0.0 ? ? ? U ? ? 0 ? ? ?0 ? ? ? ?0 eth0
>> 224.0.0.0 ? ? ? * ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 240.0.0.0 ? ? ? U ? ? 0 ? ? ?0 ? ? ? ?0 eth0
>> default ? ? ? ? DD-WRT ? ? ? ? ?0.0.0.0 ? ? ? ? UG ? ?0 ? ? ?0 ? ? ? ?0 eth0
>> 
>> steve at ubuntu:~$ sudo tcpdump -e -nn -c 100 -i any host 239.255.255.250
>> tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode
>> listening on any, link-type LINUX_SLL (Linux cooked), capture size 96 bytes
>> 21:31:54.709793 ? M 7a:79:05:91:bb:5e ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length
>> 177: 5.145.x.x.52124 > 239.255.255.250.1900: UDP, length 133
>> 21:31:57.709438 ? M 7a:79:05:91:bb:5e ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length
>> 177: 5.145.x.x.52124 > 239.255.255.250.1900: UDP, length 133
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 21:51:34 -0400
> From: Raymond Wagner <raymond at wagnerrp.com>
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv Backend, upnp and hamachi
> To: Discussion about MythTV <mythtv-users at mythtv.org>
> Message-ID: <4E1E4BA6.8020608 at wagnerrp.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> On 07/13/11 21:43, Steve Malenfant wrote:
>> 239.0.0.0       *               255.0.0.0       U     0      0        0 eth0
>> 224.0.0.0       *               240.0.0.0       U     0      0        0 eth0
> 
> I doubt this matters, but why do you have two separate routing entries
> for the 239/8 subnet?
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 22:00:38 -0400
> From: Steve Malenfant <smalenfant at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv Backend, upnp and hamachi
> To: Discussion about MythTV <mythtv-users at mythtv.org>
> Message-ID:
>    <CAHUF_MZb2GAB+3nRHivGbsWpeCfTxb8rOeo_Muwy3JJG_u-j1w at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> I think I explained that in my e-mail about my 2 routes.
> 
> Anyway, the problem was hamachi. See how it does bind everything for
> UDP port 1900?
> udp   124576      0 0.0.0.0:1900            0.0.0.0:*
>         1206/hamachid
> 
> Well, once I stopped (kill pid 1206) and restart the mythtv server, I
> finally got these 2 entries :
> udp        0      0 255.255.255.255:1900    0.0.0.0:*
>         26588/mythbackend
> udp        0      0 239.255.255.250:1900    0.0.0.0:*
>         26588/mythbackend
> 
> This is using as root "netstat -napu".
> 
> Upnp was working, but only on a fresh reboot but if the mythtv server
> was restarting (upgrade, mythtv-setup, manual restart) then it
> wouldn't work anyway since the port binding probably failed. This is
> only my assumptions where mythtv backend was starting before hamachi.
> 
> Steve
> 
> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Raymond Wagner <raymond at wagnerrp.com> wrote:
>> On 07/13/11 21:43, Steve Malenfant wrote:
>>> 239.0.0.0 ? ? ? * ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 255.0.0.0 ? ? ? U ? ? 0 ? ? ?0 ? ? ? ?0 eth0
>>> 224.0.0.0 ? ? ? * ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 240.0.0.0 ? ? ? U ? ? 0 ? ? ?0 ? ? ? ?0 eth0
>> 
>> I doubt this matters, but why do you have two separate routing entries
>> for the 239/8 subnet?
>> _______________________________________________
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>> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 22:30:46 -0400
> From: Raymond Wagner <raymond at wagnerrp.com>
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv Backend, upnp and hamachi
> To: Discussion about MythTV <mythtv-users at mythtv.org>
> Message-ID: <4E1E54D6.7000506 at wagnerrp.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> On 07/13/11 22:00, Steve Malenfant wrote:
>> Anyway, the problem was hamachi. See how it does bind everything for
>> UDP port 1900?
>> udp   124576      0 0.0.0.0:1900            0.0.0.0:*
>>         1206/hamachid
> 
> 239.255.255.250:1900 is only used as the autodetection port for UPnP. 
> Discovery and announcement packets are sent out by everyone to that
> address.  Everyone listens on that address for announcements and
> discovery requests.  When I say everyone, I mean the kernel handles
> those addresses in a special manner that anything sent gets multiplexed
> out to any and every application that wants it.
> 
> Discovery and announcement packets contain an address and port that
> application can be reached at.  The address and port are irrelevant.  If
> something else is already bound to the address you want, you pick a
> different one and try again.  If the MythTV UPnP server fails to start
> if it fails to bind to port 1900, that's probably something that should
> be fixed.
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 23:46:48 -0400
> From: Tom Bongiorno <two.bits.11 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [mythtv-users] Hauppauge USB CableCard Tuner for $129!
> To: Discussion about MythTV <mythtv-users at mythtv.org>
> Message-ID:
>    <CAObkmsVKCJ9usxCv1tDEMx5am6fgP7hOYBHZNbqDh6C0erhftQ at mail.gmail.com>
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> 
> They are taking orders Monday and shipping by the end of July.
> 
> Since they partnered with SiliconDust on this, is there any chance this will
> be supported in MythTV?
> 
> http://hd.engadget.com/2009/09/12/hauppauge-to-expand-its-offerings-to-include-a-cablecard-tuner/
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> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 10:50:12 +0100
> From: john legion <johnlegion6 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [mythtv-users] Can't tune after UK switchover
> To: mythtv-users at mythtv.org
> Message-ID:
>    <CA+vew6TjCX2meHDdw+_+w=ZLxRffMzxA7vJ-f0j09ZgbHjwoeQ at mail.gmail.com>
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> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I am in Edinburgh and previous to the digital switchover I was able to see
> two transmitters, Blackhill and Craigkelly.
> Subsequent to the switchover I can no longer get  Mythtv to lock onto any
> channel on either transmitter.
> 
> When I retuned I could see most multiplexes on both of the transmitters but
> not all.
> I have tried tuning using full scan in Myth, scan of existing transports,
> scan of existing transports where I had manually edited the transports to
> only include the few I would need and also by importing channels.conf .
> 
> All of these methods according to Mythtv have found >100 channels and so
> everything seems good but when I go into the frontend then I can't watch
> live TV because the channel never gets past partial lock, even though the
> signal strength is ~75% .
> 
> Also , no matter what I do I can't see any EIT data on any channel .
> 
> With the ariel connected directly to my TV I can see all channels and EIT
> data. I can also play tv through Xine on the backend server so I guess that
> the ariel and card are working, it just seems to be some issue with Mythtv.
> 
> Is anyone else seeing the same or does anyone have any suggestions ?
> 
> cheers
> JL
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> Message: 11
> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 11:33:36 +0100
> From: David Watkins <watkinshome at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Can't tune after UK switchover
> To: Discussion about MythTV <mythtv-users at mythtv.org>
> Message-ID:
>    <CAJzO0N7vJO2q8u4Dqhej6ueZrr7byMSeZs7G78J3ErTG45PgEw at mail.gmail.com>
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> 
> On 14 July 2011 10:50, john legion <johnlegion6 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I am in Edinburgh and previous to the digital switchover I was able to see
>> two transmitters, Blackhill and Craigkelly.
>> Subsequent to the switchover I can no longer get? Mythtv to lock onto any
>> channel on either transmitter.
>> 
>> When I retuned I could see most multiplexes on both of the transmitters but
>> not all.
>> I have tried tuning using full scan in Myth, scan of existing transports,
>> scan of existing transports where I had manually edited the transports to
>> only include the few I would need and also by importing channels.conf .
>> 
>> All of these methods according to Mythtv have found >100 channels and so
>> everything seems good but when I go into the frontend then I can't watch
>> live TV because the channel never gets past partial lock, even though the
>> signal strength is ~75% .
>> 
>> Also , no matter what I do I can't see any EIT data on any channel .
>> 
>> With the ariel connected directly to my TV I can see all channels and EIT
>> data. I can also play tv through Xine on the backend server so I guess that
>> the ariel and card are working, it just seems to be some issue with Mythtv.
>> 
>> Is anyone else seeing the same or does anyone have any suggestions ?
> 
> I'm only guessing but:
> 
> 1) Are you using an aerial amplifier or amplified splitter?  Digital
> signal strength may have increased significantly following switchover
> and it's possible you're saturating the capture card input.  I live
> quite close the Crystal Palace transmitter and have to use an
> attenuator with one of my capture cards.
> 
> 2) It's also possible that, if the digital multiplexes have changed
> frequency,  your antenna is no longer suitable.  As I understand it,
> DVB multiplexes can use channel frequencies within the analog TV
> channel range, in which case an old 'analog'  antenna will work fine,
> or use frequencies outside that range, in which case it may not work
> so well.
> 
> 3) It's also possible that, now the broadcast power has been
> increased, your two transmitters are interfering with each other and
> you need a more directional antenna.
> 
> I'd hope for option 1 if I were you!
> 
> Good Luck.
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 12
> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 07:01:18 -0400
> From: Daniel Drummond <dan.ddrummond at gmail.com>
> Subject: [mythtv-users] Best distro for mythtv
> To: "mythtv-users at mythtv.org" <mythtv-users at mythtv.org>
> Message-ID: <197EE582-4514-408C-BA19-678D33012CEA at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=us-ascii
> 
> I have been using gentoo as my distro for 6 years. Seems like it takes forever for mythtv package to be released. I was wondering if there is a distro that's more aggressive in releasing mythtv packages?
> 
> Thanks for anybody's time
> 
> Dan
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 13
> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 07:01:26 -0400
> From: Ronald Frazier <ron at ronfrazier.net>
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Hauppauge USB CableCard Tuner for $129!
> To: Discussion about MythTV <mythtv-users at mythtv.org>
> Message-ID:
>    <CADvQU8Dx556byAOvrrQq46-0tYNbSvmNz-YSZNh15WFzZhG8nA at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
>> They are taking orders Monday and shipping by the end of July.
>> Since they partnered with SiliconDust on this, is there any chance this will
>> be supported in MythTV?
>> http://hd.engadget.com/2009/09/12/hauppauge-to-expand-its-offerings-to-include-a-cablecard-tuner/
> 
> 
> You linked to an old article (2009). Here's something more recent:
> http://hd.engadget.com/2011/07/13/hauppauge-usb-cablecard-tuner-announced-on-facebook-ships-later/
> 
> It appears to be a 2 tuner model. That makes the game sort of
> interesting. If you ONLY want 2 tuners, then it's not a bad deal. If
> you would be thinking about buying 2 of these, you'd probably be
> better off with a Ceton card. It's only $40 more, and you'd easily
> save that in about a year by having to only rent 1 cablecard for the
> Ceton, vs renting 2 for the Hauppauges. The HDHR Prime is in an
> interesting position. It costs almost as much as a Ceton or 2 of
> these, and would only get you 3 tuners vs 4. Its network attached
> design seems to be its only big selling point anymore, as the lower
> price on the Ceton and now this device are sort of chipping away at
> the Prime's market from both ends.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Ron Frazier
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 14
> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 12:01:53 +0100
> From: John Pilkington <J.Pilk at tesco.net>
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Can't tune after UK switchover
> To: mythtv-users at mythtv.org
> Message-ID: <4E1ECCA1.8070601 at tesco.net>
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> On 14/07/11 11:33, David Watkins wrote:
>> On 14 July 2011 10:50, john legion<johnlegion6 at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>> 
>>> I am in Edinburgh and previous to the digital switchover I was able to see
>>> two transmitters, Blackhill and Craigkelly.
>>> Subsequent to the switchover I can no longer get  Mythtv to lock onto any
>>> channel on either transmitter.
>>> 
>>> When I retuned I could see most multiplexes on both of the transmitters but
>>> not all.
>>> I have tried tuning using full scan in Myth, scan of existing transports,
>>> scan of existing transports where I had manually edited the transports to
>>> only include the few I would need and also by importing channels.conf .
>>> 
>>> All of these methods according to Mythtv have found>100 channels and so
>>> everything seems good but when I go into the frontend then I can't watch
>>> live TV because the channel never gets past partial lock, even though the
>>> signal strength is ~75% .
>>> 
>>> Also , no matter what I do I can't see any EIT data on any channel .
>>> 
>>> With the ariel connected directly to my TV I can see all channels and EIT
>>> data. I can also play tv through Xine on the backend server so I guess that
>>> the ariel and card are working, it just seems to be some issue with Mythtv.
>>> 
>>> Is anyone else seeing the same or does anyone have any suggestions ?
>> 
>> I'm only guessing but:
>> 
>> 1) Are you using an aerial amplifier or amplified splitter?  Digital
>> signal strength may have increased significantly following switchover
>> and it's possible you're saturating the capture card input.  I live
>> quite close the Crystal Palace transmitter and have to use an
>> attenuator with one of my capture cards.
>> 
>> 2) It's also possible that, if the digital multiplexes have changed
>> frequency,  your antenna is no longer suitable.  As I understand it,
>> DVB multiplexes can use channel frequencies within the analog TV
>> channel range, in which case an old 'analog'  antenna will work fine,
>> or use frequencies outside that range, in which case it may not work
>> so well.
>> 
>> 3) It's also possible that, now the broadcast power has been
>> increased, your two transmitters are interfering with each other and
>> you need a more directional antenna.
>> 
>> I'd hope for option 1 if I were you!
>> 
>> Good Luck.
> 
> There have been several similar threads on this list as different 
> regions have entered switchover.  The first thing to do is to delete all 
> your existing digital channels - which requires a high level of trust 
> but really is important.  Then you ought to decide which transmitter you 
> want to use and enter just one of its mux frequencies into the transport 
> editor, tick the 'search for other muxes' box and try a tuned scan. 
> With luck this might populate 4 other transports - or 5 if you have 
> dvb-t2.  If you don't get the luck try a few more searches on 
> gossamer-threads!
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> John P
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 15
> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 07:25:27 -0400
> From: Raymond Wagner <raymond at wagnerrp.com>
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Best distro for mythtv
> To: Discussion about MythTV <mythtv-users at mythtv.org>
> Message-ID: <910beb16e52559767805fe0b7a970fa0 at mail.wagnerrp.com>
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> On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 07:01:18 -0400, Daniel Drummond
> <dan.ddrummond at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I have been using gentoo as my distro for 6 years. Seems like it takes
>> forever for mythtv package to be released. I was wondering if there is a
>> distro that's more aggressive in releasing mythtv packages?
> 
> Hopefully after six years, you realize Gentoo doesn't do packages.  It
> does source, and something like Firefox is one of the rare exceptions of an
> application that does a binary release.  Gentoo does source, with ebuilds
> that describe how to use the source.  With the old subversion based
> ebuilds, it was as simple as renaming the ebuild, digesting, and
> installing.  Now with git, the update process is a bit more complicated,
> however MythTV provides an overlay of ebuilds updated fairly regularly, and
> a utility to facilitate updating ebuilds on your own.
> 
> https://github.com/MythTV/packaging/tree/master/Gentoo
> 
> The maintainer of the official portage ebuilds has been falling down on
> keeping them updated, however recently contacted us about getting our
> ebuilds periodically pushed into the general tree.
> 
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