[mythtv-users] All BBC channels are gone

Duncan Brown mythtv at duncb.co.uk
Thu Apr 5 08:57:44 UTC 2012


On 04/04/2012 10:51, Simon Hobson wrote:
> Thomas Boehm wrote:
>
>> It looks like the digital switchover starts today. I might be a bit
>> daft, but am I not using digital already?
>
> The switchover goes in several stages - we went through it some time 
> ago, once again the North West (Winter Hill transmitter) lead where 
> others follow :-)
>
> Up until yesterday you'll have been getting a limited number of muxes, 
> at low power, that will have been shoehorned into the spectrum at 
> frequencies chosen to minimise interference with existing analogue 
> channels.
>
> The first step they do is to turn off BBC 2 on analogue to free up 
> it's frequency - and replace it with one digital mux. That's why you 
> need to rescan now to get all the channels back. I vaguely recall that 
> this mux carried the main analogue channels meaning that people could 
> switch to digital (ie drop analogue altogether and not have to keep 
> switching analogue-digital) without losing anything.
> From http://help.digitaluk.co.uk/display/4/kb/article.aspx?aid=8168
>>     *    At around midnight, the analogue BBC Two service and the 
>> existing digital BBC services will be switched off at the Crystal 
>> Palace transmitter and its fifty four relays.
>>     *    The remaining analogue services, BBC One, ITV and Channel 4 
>> will continue to be available but may be subject to interruptions.
>>     *    The existing digital services broadcast from the main 
>> Crystal Palace transmitter will remain on-air but are subject to 
>> breaks in service.
>>     *    Digital television services will be restored throughout the 
>> day.
>
> After a couple of weeks (giving people time to sort themselves out on 
> digital) they will turn off the rest of the analogue and bring up all 
> the digital muxes on their permanent frequencies. You will need to 
> rescan again when this happens.
> From http://help.digitaluk.co.uk/display/4/kb/article.aspx?aid=8169
>>     *    At around midnight, all analogue services will be switched 
>> off and will stop broadcasting permanently.
>>     *    During the day, new high powered digital services are 
>> launched. Find out when your services will be available.
>
> After that, you should be up and running with the permanent muxes.
>
> For us, there then followed a seemingly never ending stream of minor 
> channel changes (mostly replacing content (eg Men & Motors) with yet 
> another shopping channel) - each requiring a rescan :-( Hopefully by 
> now all that is more or less settled, there'll just be minor changes 
> as channels come and go.
>
> You might want to take a look at 
> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Database_editing_script
> edit the script to your own tastes, and you'll find it becomes much 
> easier to rescan and reset your channel lineup.
>
> Also, be aware that if you can get signals from more than one 
> transmitter, you'll need to do a bit more work.
> Either :
>
> a)
> Delete all channels and delete all transports. Manually scan only one 
> frequency (you'll need to find the frequency of one main mux on your 
> preferred transmitter) - this should pick up the other transports from 
> that transmitter. Then "scan existing transports" to get all the 
> channels.
>
> b)
> Manually delete transports from transmitters you don't want to use. 
> Then scan existing transports.
>
Living in Cardiff I often get a lot of issues rescanning as I can also 
pick up Mendip if the wind is blowing in the right direction.

I find this site to be a massive help, as then I can pick the correct 
transports each time:

http://www.ukfree.tv/txlist.php

FInd your transmitter on the map and double click on it, then just scan 
the transports it lists. Also helpful if you find yourself missing a 
couple of channels and need to do a rescan ignoring timeouts, or if a 
new channel appears and you don't want to do a full rescan.

Well worth bookmarking

Dunc


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