[mythtv-users] THIS IS A NON-COMMERCIAL MAILING LIST (WAS: Re: Torc for iOS - Application Submitted to the App Store for Review)

[Richard Ferrara]

If it wasn't sent here, I wouldn't have seen it. It looks awesome and makes mythtv awesome-er. Get over it.

-rF

On 17/04/2012, at 8:37 AM, Simon Hobson wrote:

> Chris Pinkham wrote:
> 
>> > Oh come off it Chris, this is of high interest to many people. If that
>>> is the case please make sure you never discuss schedules direct, which
>>> charges.
>> 
>> Schedules Direct doesn't come into the -users list for support. SD has
>> its own forums.  SD is also a non-profit.  If Hauppauge or Ceton or
>> NVidia or ATI or Intel or anyone else came in here advertising or
>> using this as a support channel for their commercial products, we'd
>> say the same thing to them.
> 
> I think I'm inclined to side with Nick on this one. Fundamentally this app has one function - to make the experience of using MythTV and Torc on an iPad great. As I've read the thread, he's not been here pushing it (apart from an announcement that it was happening and that it's been submitted) - rather that he's been answering genuine questions from MYTHTV USERS about using something WITH MYTHTV. Ie, apart from a couple of short posts (and at the time of most of them, I don't think this was commercial), the bulk of his posts have been in response to questions from MythTV users.
> 
> Now, if someone from (say) Ceton or Silicon Dust were on this list, and answered questions about using their product with MythTV, would you really tell then to sod off ? Or would you actually be thinking "great, a manufacturer prepared to help MythTV users ?". I'm on quite few mailing lists for a variety of subjects, and I don't think any of them would SHOUT SUCH A MESSAGE AT A VENDOR OFFERING ADVICE IN SUCH A MANNER - did you *really* need to use all caps in your subject ?
> 
> 
> And if we're being pedantic, then look at the wording : "... advertisement or support of any commercial products, whether they be MythTV related or not"
> 
> So no discussion of support of cable services, satellite services, commercial streaming services, commercial listing services, tuner cards, remote controls, hard disks, video cards, TVs, the list goes on. Doesn't exactly leave a lot to discuss !
> Just for good measure, discussion of hooking up a satellite/cable/whatever box via analogue to a capture card breaches the DMCA - but it's discussed openly. The use of CableCards is discussed openly, but discussion of CAM/CI is forbidden even where it is perfectly legal (yes I do understand where that comes from, but still ...)
> So there does seem to be a lot of "selective application of rules" when deciding what is and isn't permissible.
> 
> You may have a point and consider Robert to be promoting his app. You could have been polite about requesting it to stop - your shouted demand (what else is a block of all caps ?) was not a polite request.
> 
> 
> Lastly, I really have to wonder if you would have acted the same had the Torc project never forked off - ie this app was purely MythTV related.
> 
> -- 
> Simon Hobson
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