[mythtv-users] A plea for some consideration for the poor suffering MythTV users

Craig Treleaven ctreleaven at cogeco.ca
Wed Aug 8 16:10:09 UTC 2012


At 11:54 AM -0400 8/8/12, Joseph Fry wrote:
>Well, that certainly stirred up the hornets nest! One of the best 
>things about MythTV (and other Linux/UNIX apps) is the
>involvement of a huge range of users and developers who come to the 
>aid of other struggling users with (mostly) helpful
>comments and suggestions.
>
>The comments have been very valid, and yes, I could have just 
>installed the MythTV packages. However, I'd still have
>this 
>(<http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/525274>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/525274) 
>problem. Last time I used the distribution packages I
>had another sound issue (or was it the dreaded lirc?) which I could 
>only resolve with the latest source at the
>time. Marius Ducea has some very apt comments here 
>(<http://www.ducea.com/2008/01/16/source-or-package-install/>http://www.ducea.com/2008/01/16/source-or-package-install/). 
>I want
>to unclutter the MythTV menus and not install packages that I don't 
>use so a source build is needed. I'd also still have
>to fix this 
>(<https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/1004974>https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/1004974) 
>to fix the Mythbuntu theme which a "user" (ie. spouse)
>spotted within two minutes of using the new system.
>
>
>I think we can all agree that Mythtv documentation is lacking 
>somewhat.  Please don't take this the wrong way, but rather than 
>asking someone else to improve it, why don't you make it your 
>personal mission.  Perhaps write a distribution agnostic 
>compile-from-source guide (with notes for saving time on your distro 
>by using precompiled dependancies).  Sure, it will take a while, 
>especially because your actually trying to figure everything out as 
>you go.
>
>The reason that such documentation doesn't exist is because almost 
>no one does this, and those that do have no need for documentation. 
> Perhaps you can outline the reasons why someone would want to build 
>it manually.
>
>...
Instead of documentation--read the source, of one of the packager's 
recipes!  I've been working on using MacPorts to build Myth.  The 
osx-packager.pl script was easy enough to follow to determine the 
necessary dependencies on OS X.  There are a couple of other 
packaging scripts in the Packaging repository on GitHub.  If they are 
being used regularly, you have pretty good assurance that the 
dependencies are complete and up-to-date.  After that, the configure 
script output summarizes what has been found or not.  Lather, rinse 
and repeat a couple (dozen) times and 'Bob's your uncle'!

Craig

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