[mythtv-users] Alternatives to MythMusic in 0.25, has anyone already found one?

Steven Adeff adeffs.mythtv at gmail.com
Wed May 2 15:13:33 UTC 2012


On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Eric Sharkey <eric at lisaneric.org> wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 8:03 AM, Paul Harrison <mythtv at sky.com> wrote:
>> On 25/04/12 04:53, Eric Sharkey wrote:
>> Hi Eric,
>>
>> Nice to see someone doing something positive for a change :) It's
>> against my better judgement but only because I'm in a good mood I
>> thought I'd try to address some of these issues :)
>
> Thanks, Paul.
>
>>> 2.  There should be a single key press to get to the tree view, with a
>>> default binding of "3"
>>
>> There is a move to get away from having to remember cryptic key presses
>> to do things that only work on one screen. The preferred method is to
>> use the menu to switch views.
>
> Understood, but no one suggested taking it out of the menu.  I agree
> completely that you shouldn't have to remember cryptic key presses,
> but if there is a cryptic key press (and people have been using it for
> 10 years or whatever) to have that cryptic key press no longer
> function is off-putting.  The goal for a user interface should be to
> be hostile neither to experienced nor inexperienced users.
>
>> It would be easy to add some extra key bindings to the 'Music' context
>> to switch views. In main.cpp setupKeys() add
>>
>> REG_KEY("Music", "SWITCHTOPLAYLISTEDITORTREE",
>> QT_TRANSLATE_NOOP("MythControls",
>>        "Switch to the playlist editor tree view"), "3");
>
> That would be perfect.
>
>> I hated the split nodes which is why I didn't add them back. I know
>> opinion is split but using the search is far quicker at finding what you
>> want even when using a remote.
>
> I'm not quite sure how to do searching without a keyboard.  But even
> with a keyboard, searching isn't quite as efficient as I'd like to see
> it.
>
> When I enter a search string, usually I enter a word from the start of
> the title, not a random substring in the middle of a word.  I'd prefer
> to have the search results ordered such that matches that match the
> start of the string are shown first, then matches that match the start
> of a word, and then finally matches that match in the middle of a
> word.  This should make it easier to find tracks by typing less of a
> word and/or pressing next less often.
>
>
>>> 5.  MythMusic should start on playlist tree view, rather than current playlist
>>>
>>
>> I'm confused! We have two menu entries on the main menu one is 'Play
>> Music' the other is "Select Music' each one shows the relevant view when
>> selected why would you want that any other way?
>
> I have my menu theme set to "default", which I would imagine many
> (most?) other users do as well.
>
> I only see one menu entry for Myth Music called "Listen to Music" with
> the subtitle "Browse your music library" that takes me immediately to
> the current playlist view.  The first impression for a new user will
> be the statement on screen "You haven't selected any tracks to play"
> with no obvious indication of what to do.  The menu key brings up a
> menu with choices:
>
> Search List...
> Switch View
> Playlist Options
> Set Shuffle Mode
> Set Repeat Mode
> Player Options
> Quick Playlists
> Change Visualizer
>
> And my first guess for where to go to actually select tracks was
> Playlist Options.  It didn't occur to me that after picking Media
> Library -> Listen to Music (Browse your music library) I would then
> need to pick "Switch View" to actually do that.  It took some poking
> around to figure that out, and I think that's consistent with the
> negative first impression that a lot of people seem to be having with
> the new Myth Music.
>
> Most of the time when I go into Myth Music I do not want to listen to
> whatever the last person to use it was listening to, so the first
> thing I need to do every time is call up the menu and switch views, so
> not only is starting in current playlist counter intuitive, it's
> annoying as well.  But it's sounding like this isn't a criticism of
> Myth Music per se, but rather the default Media Library menu.
>
> Thanks for your patch.  I'll check it out shortly.
>
> Eric

any word on the patch? would love to compile this into the mythbuntu
deb if it works well!

I assume this is not something that could be included into 0.25-fixes?

thanks!

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