[mythtv-users] What major features are planned for 0.27?

[Mark Greenwood]

On Tuesday 20 Nov 2012 10:24:39 Mark wrote:
> On 2012-11-20 10:22 AM, Mark Greenwood wrote:
> > On Tuesday 20 Nov 2012 10:17:10 Mark wrote:
> >> On 2012-11-20 9:43 AM, Mark Greenwood wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday 20 Nov 2012 10:21:56 Michael T. Dean wrote:
> >>>> On 11/20/2012 02:05 AM, Phill Edwards wrote:
> >>>>>> I have to ask whether it's time for the folks interested in coding the
> >>>>>> frontend bits to give up on the Myth frontend as it's own stand-alone
> >>>>>> app (along with all of it's failing bits) and instead take the
> >>>>>> working-really-well bits and provide XBMC with first class Myth playback
> >>>>>> capabilities.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> I love mythfrontend and I find it very disappointing that people want
> >>>>> to get rid of it as I don't think whatever replaces it will be as good
> >>>>> for TV recording playback. Sure XBMC looks good but I think features
> >>>>> come first.
> >>>>>
> >>>> And, FWIW, mythfrontend can look /very/ good, too--just requires some
> >>>> people to actually help with theming it (rather than just saying that
> >>>> XBMC is better and recommending we drop mythfrontend)...
> >>>>
> >>> Yes, the MythMediaStream theme looks really good, but it does use up a shedload of RAM. IMO all the XBMC themes look great, they're easy to navigate, and seem to use far less memory - which is significant for many who run a frontend on a small PC.
> >>>
> >>> But it's not al about eye candy. I've been experimenting with XMBC as a frontend and the setup is SO much simpler - I haven't had to faff with sysctl.conf, udev rules, (for RTC timing) or even the dreaded LIRC. It all just worked (apart from the usual type of faffing with  xorg.conf). And A/V sync is spot on with all sources, including TV - which it wasn't with mythtv 0.26.
> >>>
> >>> I'm sure mythfrontend is extremely capable (I know it is, I went to the trouble of setting it up) but using XBMC gives me more beer time. I think that perhaps when people say 'XBMC is better' they might mean 'I managed to get XBMC to work so I'm using it because I gave up on mythfrontend after 3 days'.
> >>>
> >>> Mark
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> >> Pardon the slightly off topic.
> >> There is no xbmc plugin for mythtv 26 is there?
> >> I would like to look at it if so.
> > No but there is a mythtv plugin for xbmc, which I think is what you want. It allows you to use xmbc as a frontend for your mythtv backend. It is, however, experimental and currently only works with the development version of xbmc and the add-on itself has to be built from source. It's all on the xbmc downloads page if you're interested. It's what I'm now using as my main frontend.
> >
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> Very interesting.  I will try that.
> Why do you use that rather than mythfrontend?
> Better experience, performance?

I have been struggling for several days to get A/V sync correct in mythfrontend 0.26 - my movies were OK but the sound on TV was lagging behind sufficiently for me to notice. So I tried XBMC to see if it was better, and it was. It still took some effort and reading of the XMBC wiki to get my xorg.conf set up correctly for all refresh rates (it's slightly different to the one I needed for mythtv) but now I've done it everything plays fine. I also find the whole layout of the xbmc gui more freindly, and as I've mentioned there are so many fewer options that I'm not afraid of touching anything.

Mark

> 
> Quite interested in your thoughts on that.
> 
> Mark
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