[mythtv-users] Frontend as cable settop box--using Live-TV

[Phil Bridges]

On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 12:42 PM, lists.md301 <lists.md301 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Kenni Lund <kenni at kelu.dk> wrote:
>
>>
>> Den 08/08/2013 16.23 skrev "lists.md301" <lists.md301 at gmail.com>:
>>
>> >
>> > I throw this out as food for thought:
>> >
>> > I realize (and understand) that Live-TV has been of late a somewhat
>> buggy/neglected feature, for good reasons.  Occasionally people question
>> its value, and I have generally agreed with that.  I will offer a contrary
>> point of view now, and this is not a plea for any current "issues" to be
>> fixed soon, but just a reason for developers not to abandon it entirely.
>> >
>> > Because of the relatively recent FCC decision which allows cable
>> providers to encrypt even basic cable, those of us who use clear QAM are
>> losing basic functionality with minimal equipment setup (built-in TV
>> tuners).  To maintain what we have, we're eventually going to have to pay
>> for it, one way or the other.  But even the status quo doesn't give me all
>> the channels I pay for on all my TV's.  I've been thinking about this more,
>> as I just picked up an LG 22" LED-TV for the bedroom, to replace the last
>> old CRT, connected to (currently free) SD DTA.
>> >
>> > If I'm eventually going to have to go to the trouble of running a
>> second coax drop (and installing an attic antenna to go with it), I'll
>> might as well run Cat6 while I'm at it and put a new MythTV frontend there
>> to use as a set-top box.  But for that to work optimally, LiveTV
>> functionality (sourced from my HDHR Prime) that doesn't crash my system
>> would be helpful.
>> >
>>
>> Out of curiosity, what is the ticket number of the bug report for this
>> live TV crash? I don't remember seeing such a report recently.
>>
>> Best regards
>> Kenni
>>
>>
> Really, you're going to mock me?  I like to think I follow the mailing
> list (and IRC) pretty closely.  I didn't think there was any secret that
> there are issues with LiveTV.  I'm sorry if you took offense that I used a
> short hand "crash", which may not be technically accurate--but I don't
> think it's a far off characterization that using LiveTV can be problematic,
> maybe ultimately requiring a frontend or backend restart.
>
> I happen to heed the suggestion of several developers I have seen here on
> the list over the years, to NOT use LiveTV but instead schedule a recording
> and watch it in-progress.  I do this for pretty much all of my MythTV
> viewing.  I only use LiveTV when I'm testing my setup after some kind of
> change (usually channel lineup and/or tuner modification), so I have never
> personally witnessed a crash--hence no ticket opportunity from me.
>
> I asked the question several weeks about the state of MythTV anticipating
> 0.27, as I am on still on 0.24-fixes, because it is stable enough for me
> and I have seen issues (from reading the mailing list and then looking at
> the open tickets) that have made me unwilling to upgrade (because I don't
> have the time to experiment properly and be prepared to revert if it
> doesn't work well for me).  The one thing I have noticed, from reading the
> list, is that "flakiness" has gotten worse (for various reasons) since
> 0.24, and pretty consistently no developers have had the inclination to
> dive deep and investigate because none of them use it.  Stuff like only a
> couple of channel changes before LiveTV gets stuck, or not properly
> switching between tuners after a while.
>
> If you or anyone is willing to say I'm mistaken about all the stability of
> LiveTV, I would be happy to hear that.  Part of the difficulty of searching
> the mailing list archives is knowing when something is truly resolved.
> Sometimes people are silent because of success, but also because they have
> given up in frustration.
>
> I just hope I don't see myself being mocked on IRC for sharing my scenario
> and opinion, and now asking a question.  I'm most not definitely asking for
> my pet issue to be fixed now or soon, just suggesting that there may be a
> user base for an existing feature that has historically had issues and for
> a variety of reasons, hasn't gotten much attention.  If in a subsequent
> release the developers decided to remove LiveTV entirely, I wouldn't
> complain about that decision.
>
>
>
I use LiveTV on .26-fixes quite a bit, with a HD Homerun and a HD HomeRun
Prime.
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