[mythtv-users] record at any time on channel <CHANNEL> is missing in master soon to be .27
Jay Foster
jayfoster at roadrunner.com
Wed Jul 24 17:55:38 UTC 2013
On 7/24/2013 10:02 AM, thomas at mashos.com wrote:
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> Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 09:45:37 -0700
> From: Thomas Mashos<thomas at mashos.com>
> To:stephen at jsw.gen.nz, Discussion about MythTV
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> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] record at any time on channel<CHANNEL> is
> missing in master soon to be .27
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> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Stephen Worthington<
> stephen_agent at jsw.gen.nz> wrote:
>
>> > On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 10:38:33 -0400, you wrote:
>> >
>>> > >On 07/24/2013 10:27 AM, jrh wrote:
>>>> > >> I am using mythfrontend, with the Mythcenter-wide v 1.7 theme.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Will the 'this channel' be default to 'ON'? Or have an option to set it
>> > to default to ON? It is in the advanced settings for a recording which is
>> > normally hidden.
>>> > >
>>> > >You can create recording rule templates to apply whatever recording rule
>>> > >options you like. So, you could make one for each of the "this channel"
>>> > >channels you use.
>>> > >
>>> > >The reason for the split to advanced settings is because we wanted to
>>> > >make it easy for most people to create the vast majority of needed
>>> > >recording rules--i.e. creating "anytime/any channel" rules. Those
>>> > >"extra" settings people can use
>>> > >
>>> > >Note, also, there's seldom reason for a "this channel" rule. There are
>>> > >typically much better options available. For example, for the scenario
>>> > >you describe:
>>> > >
>>>> > >> For example for a given show, i use it on for a show that is broadcast
>> > weekly, and I want to keep all of them. However, for that same show that is
>> > in 'syndication' on a different channel I want to restrict the number of
>> > episodes to a dozen or so as it is played constantly.
>>> > >
>>> > >a better approach would be to use the "new episodes" filter for the new
>>> > >episodes. Note, also, that the fact that there are almost always better
>>> > >approaches available than "this channel" rules is the reason "this
>>> > >channel" rules were removed (and the "this channel" filter was
>>> > >added)--it is meant to indicate that "this channel" should not be a
>>> > >first-level criteria when deciding how to schedule shows. Instead, you
>>> > >should look at other options, first, and leave "this channel" filter as
>>> > >a less-preferred tool in the arsenal.
>>> > >
>>> > >In general, use of "this channel" rules seems to have been mostly due to
>>> > >users failing to understand other (better) options available for
>> > scheduling.
>>> > >
>>> > >Mike
>> >
>> > I think you may be fooling yourselves that better options exist than
>> > "this channel" rules. If you have good EPG like that apparently
>> > available from Schedules Direct, then those other options appear to
>> > exist. But in New Zealand, our EPG is variable from just OK to bad -
>> > there are no proper "new episode" flags (or HD flags), and the EPG
>> > from one channel or provider to another is done differently. So
>> > without the option to say "this channel", just as one example, I would
>> > wind up recording things from the Sky NZ channels that are repeats
>> > from years ago of programs that have new series on the Freeview FTA
>> > channels. Now I can handle that, being a fairly sophisticated user of
>> > MythTV - I would be able to use the new filter option. But I will
>> > almost certainly find it very annoying to have to use so many extra
>> > keystrokes to do something that used to be easy, as I have to use
>> > "this channel" on almost all series recording rules.
>> >
>> > It sounds like I need to get a test setup of 0.27 running on one of my
>> > systems and try it out to see just how it actually will or will not
>> > work with our crappy EPG.
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>> >
> While I agree that having crappy EPG data sucks, I must confess that it
> annoys me when people deem workarounds an acceptable solution instead of
> fighting to fix the problem. If your EPG data is crappy, you need to
> complain to your provider (or wherever the EPG data comes from for that
> particular channel in your particular locality). The "this channel" flag is
> a workaround for that particular problem (bad guide data). I can't think of
> a valid reason to use it under normal circumstances.
>
> IIRC, moving the "this channel" from it's own recording rule to a flag was
> done to simplify the recording rule section. I welcome simplifying these
> sections, as many areas of MythTV are too complicated for new users.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Thomas Mashos
I use the record on this channel option all of the time. I receive
multiple channels with the same programming, and, depending on the
program, prefer one channel over another. The this channel option is
the only way to specify on which channel I want to record a particular
program. Please do not get rid of the 'on this channel' option.
Jay
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