[mythtv-users] State of blu-ray support?

[jedi]

On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 09:02:34AM -0500, Stephen P. Villano wrote:
> 
> On 11/19/13 8:37 AM, Raymond Wagner wrote:
> > On Nov 18, 2013, at 8:53, jedi <jedi at mishnet.org> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 05:06:30PM -0500, Raymond Wagner wrote:
> >>> On 11/17/2013 12:42 PM, Simon Hobson wrote:
> >>>> Eric Sharkey wrote:
> >>>>> No, that's not the only way.  The other way is to demonstrate the
> >>>>> futility of shenanigans.
> >>>> That's proven not to work. Those that inflict such crap on the world
> >>>> simply see that as meaning they need stickier, smellier sh*t.
> >>>>
> >>>> Eg, the CSS on DVDs was shown to be futile, so they* enacted laws to
> >>>> make it illegal to circumvent it. In addition, they did the CSS for
> >>>> BlueRay, which again has been shown not to be effective against other
> >>>> than against law abiding people who weren't going to redistribute
> >>>> unprotected videos anyway.
> >>> Unless you're going off the premise that all DRM schemes will forever be
> >>> ineffective, because they are based off an inherently insecure premise,
> >>> the laws you speak of were around long before the software to circumvent
> >>> CSS was available. They were pre-emptive.
> >>    Long before? Hardly. The DMCA was passed a year before CSS was cracked.
> >> Even if the suits and the lobbyists didn't know how weak an vulnerable it
> >> was, certainly industry professionals did.
> >>
> >>    "Long before" implies something more like 5 years or even 20.
> >>
> >>     Now what does qualify as "long before" are all of the other failed 
> >> attempts at copy protection over the years. The same goes for companies
> >> and industries that should have been wiped out by piracy.
> > It's not like a bill just magically materializes out of nowhere the moment it is ratified.  It was in the works for two years before it was passed, and just a year after DVD was first available and CSS was a thing to be cracked.
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> There are times that I'm amazed how few of my fellow citizens understand

    Doesn't sound too hard. You're an arrogant idiot.