[mythtv-users] Switching away from comcast to online streams

Stephen P. Villano stephen.p.villano at gmail.com
Sun Jan 26 23:34:41 UTC 2014


On 1/26/14, 6:29 PM, jedi wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 12:06:18PM -0500, Stephen P. Villano wrote:
>> On 1/26/14, 11:37 AM, jedi wrote:
>>> On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 11:21:37AM -0500, Eric Sharkey wrote:
>>>> On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Stephen P. Villano
>>>> <stephen.p.villano at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Strange, what cable provider is not permitting someone to use their own
>>>>> customer provided devices?
>>>>> This list is full of users who do use their customer provided devices on
>>>>> various cable networks (though, some providers are incorrectly flagging
>>>>> channels).
>>>> In nearly all cases, set top boxes and cable cards remain property of
>>>> the cable company.  If you want to buy a cable card and own it
>>>> outright without a monthly fee, you can't.  If you want a generic STB
>>>> and find one one ebay or from some other source, they generally won't
>>>> let you hook it up.
>>>     The main problem is that cable operators seek to make 3rd party devices
>>> useless. The whole encryption cartel thing has become a huge mess. The only
>>> platform that is fully supported is Windows and even then I think the only
>>> fully supported application is Microsoft's own. The entire regime is hostile
>>> to anything else. It's even somewhat hostile to Tivo.
>>>
>>>     Workaround can be done but they are more complex and more costly. The
>>> simple and direct approach is quite effectively sabotaged.
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
>> Windows is the fully supported, followed by Tivo. Both paid for the
>> licensing and met with the requirements of protecting the crypto.
>> That isn't sabotage, it's a basic licensing scheme that is somewhat
>> abusive in nature.
>    That is indeed sabotage.
>
>    The copy control settings can knarfle a Tivo.
>
> [deletia]
>
>    It is intended to work this way and the FCC doesn't really care. They
> are the people that put this regime in place to begin with. Encryption 
> between the STB and the TV is something that is absolutely not needed. It
> serves no real purpose other than to cement the position of cable companies.
>
>    Less abusive approaches are certainly possible. They are employed in Europe.
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>
True, but Europe is civilized.  ;)


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