[mythtv-users] Switching away from comcast to online streams

[Andre Ross]

***spoiler alert*** this might be a rant


I asked a question about a legal way to watch my content and I hate to say 
the answer seams to be no.

All I want to do as a end user is have my content and watch it on my own devices.
I don't have a problem paying for my content and yes I pay for content I can't even watch
But with terms of services, DRM and others no mater how you run it through the logic table the answer is no you can't.

But there seams to be one exclusion it seems to be that if DRM breaks on windows but it still records that 
seems to be OK I don't know why.

We live in a world of laws and in the world today a charge of stealing could lead to losing your job.
In my field It could lead to my not being able to pass a security check anymore and remember that 
using content you don't own could be taken as stealing. Even being hit with a lawsuit could hurt
you your family and or friends.

So even if there is or was a way to record content on your own devices talking about it or letting anyone know could
start a shit storm and anyone around could get splattered.
(for the record I don't know and I know no one on this form knows how or knows anyone that knows how to circumvent DRM)

So I'm not looking for or want to be part of the underground I would just like to be a simple end user and get what 
was promised, the cable company was ordered to provide cable cards to allow us users to receive content on our 
own devices including premium channels.

Mythtv is a user device and we own it so the cable cards should by law work with it including premium channels.

So what was done was to add to the contract a clause that makes that contract shit. 
(some company even added channel shifting so good luck with that user device)
Or another way to put it is
We where given a lease for a place to live and you can have gas, water but no electric. 

So asking Mythtv to have DRM I think is more than fair but since it runs on linux no DRM for you, no playing of DVD for you 
no playing of the bluray for you. because as you know linux can run any DRM software required.

So big joke of what the powers that be seem to push is.
There is no way to break DRM on windows or mac, there is no way to break DRM on any DVD, bluray, or HDMI device, the only place that the powers that be seem to think is only on linux can DRM be broken.

SO NO SOUP FOR YOU..........





----- Original Message -----
From: John Morris <jmorris at beau.org>
To: Discussion about MythTV <mythtv-users at mythtv.org>
Cc: 
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 11:13 PM
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Switching away from comcast to online streams

On Mon, 2014-01-27 at 10:39 -0500, Stephen P. Villano wrote:

> That is rather my take on the rant as well. A case of, "I don't like the
> law, so I'll ignore the law".
> One, that makes for a rather lousy society.

I can understand the reluctance to get too deep into legally
questionable subject matter.  But as far as Hollywierd is concerned we
will never be 'legit' until we suck it up and settle for the crappy
cable company DVR and the full set of locks and realtime monitoring.

Yea the current legal regime does erode society and the whole concept of
law.  But we live in insane times so we must sometimes embrace the
madness.  After a decade or so of committing a 'felony' every time I
stick a DVD into a drive and watch it there just isn't much guilt over
it anymore.  It's my darned dvd, my dvd drive, my PC and the software
was freely given away by the author.  But every time I load up a new PC
or reinstall, installing libdvdcss is a crime.  And yet I do it, bet you
do too.  Or are you asserting that dpkg --status libdvdcss2 or rpm -q
libdvdcss would return an error on all of your systems?

Know what else?  I currently have to pay Suddenlink for a half dozen
channels I can't actually watch.  (TBS, TVLAND, OXYGEN, CHILLER, SYFY,
one of the FOX sports channels, etc.) If I found a website that let me
download a workaround for that I'd probably install that one too.  And
feel zero guilt.  And if it were good enough to let me subscribe to HBO,
I'd probably give Suddenlink a bit more of my money.  I don't want to
steal the programming, I do want to be able to watch it after I buy it.
Which is the situation most of us find ourselves in.

Searching for workarounds leads many to the dark side though, because
TPB and Usenet have the same content as the cable company.... with a lot
fewer hoops to jump through.  Cheaper combined with less hassle is a
powerful inducement to go to the dark side.  Legal can't be cheaper so
they really should at least be trying to be easier.  Look what
widespread, cheap, unemcumbered and legal mp3/iTunes did for music
copyright violation.

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