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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'> mythtv-users-bounces@mythtv.org [mailto:mythtv-users-bounces@mythtv.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Anthony Rooney<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 15 September 2011 9:11 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Discussion about MythTV'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [mythtv-users] FW: Channel listing on mythweb from PDA broken<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'> mythtv-users-bounces@mythtv.org [mailto:mythtv-users-bounces@mythtv.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael Watson<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 14 September 2011 11:32 PM<br><b>To:</b> Discussion about MythTV<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [mythtv-users] FW: Channel listing on mythweb from PDA broken<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>On 14/09/2011 21:18, Anthony Rooney wrote: <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'> <a href="mailto:mythtv-users-bounces@mythtv.org">mythtv-users-bounces@mythtv.org</a> [<a href="mailto:mythtv-users-bounces@mythtv.org">mailto:mythtv-users-bounces@mythtv.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael Watson<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 14 September 2011 12:40 AM<br><b>To:</b> Discussion about MythTV<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [mythtv-users] FW: Channel listing on mythweb from PDA broken</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>On 13/09/2011 23:07, Anthony Rooney wrote: <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'> <a href="mailto:mythtv-users-bounces@mythtv.org">mythtv-users-bounces@mythtv.org</a> [<a href="mailto:mythtv-users-bounces@mythtv.org">mailto:mythtv-users-bounces@mythtv.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Anthony Rooney<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 7 September 2011 8:18 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:mythtv-users@mythtv.org">mythtv-users@mythtv.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [mythtv-users] Channel listing on mythweb from PDA broken</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Previously I used my Nokia E63 to connect to MythWeb and selected “Listings” and then the channel to see what was scheduled on that channel at that particular time and could scroll forward and back as required and select recording etc. Following the upgrade from 0.23 to 0.24 I can no longer get listings to work from my E63 and all works as normal from any PC based web browser client connecting to MythWeb.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Now when I select listings and then the channel I am taken to a screen with the current date and the Jump button with no listings below. I cannot figure out why this no longer works. I downloaded a different browser to the E63 with no good effect. I tried the reset MythWeb template default command from the PDA browser (?RESET_TMPL=true) which also did not work.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Everything work Ok using MythWeb from any computer or laptop based browser but does not work anymore from the Nokia. >From the Nokia all of the other MythWeb functions also work fine – Upcoming Recordings, Recorded Programs and Backend status display all the required data but not Listings.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I tried creating a second authorised user based on some feedback I found on Google that you need a 2<sup>nd</sup> user for PDA however ran into trouble with the HTPASSWD command not allowing me to add a second user. I then used the –C option which created an new htpasswd file which has stopped Apache2 from starting the web service I presume because it know it has a different hash. It seems I have swallowed the spider to catch the fly trying to fix this in the absence of any advise or assistance.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I cannot be the only one to have had listing break on PDA devices yet not help.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>This is a very useful feature which people will want to use so how do you get assistance or advice when it stops working?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Anthony<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I cannot believe I am the only one using a PDA device to access MythWeb in the manner described so how come I get absolutely no assistance or suggestions to help me get round such a debilitating problem using this feature? MythWeb is as useful as an ashtray on a motorbike or tits on a bull if you cannot use mobile devices to load an interface that is usable. This stopped working without reason following an “upgrade” from 0.23 to 0.24 so how do I recover this functionality??</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>This is supposed to be a USER forum so how do users get assistance? </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><br><br><br></span><o:p></o:p></p><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>mythtv-users mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:mythtv-users@mythtv.org">mythtv-users@mythtv.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://www.mythtv.org/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users">http://www.mythtv.org/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users</a><o:p></o:p></pre><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><br>For what its worth,<br><br>I tested the same on my Nokia E71, and get the same result as you. <br>Relevent line from the Apache access.log file is:<br><br>"GET /mythweb/tv/channel/1207/20110914 HTTP/1.1" 200 1128 <a href="http://10.0.11.10/mythweb/tv/list">"http://10.0.11.10/mythweb/tv/list"</a> "Mozilla/5.0 (SymbianOS/9.2; U; Series60/3.1 NokiaE71-1/510.21.009; Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 ) AppleWebKit/413 (KHTML, like Gecko) Safari/413"<br><br>Pasting <a href="http://10.0.11.10/mythweb/tv/channel/1207/20110914"> http://10.0.11.10/mythweb/tv/channel/1207/20110914</a> into a web browser on my desktop gives the listing for that channel as expected. No errors are logged in the apache error.log <br><br>MythTV Version : v0.24.1-84-g8f865a6<br>MythTV Branch : fixes/0.24<br><br><br>Regards,<br>Michael </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'>Thanks for the feedback Michael, you are the only one that responded to this question in over 3 weeks. I guess there are not many people using their mobile devices to access MythTv listings, which is very surprising. Do you think this is a bug and there is no work-a-round?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'>I have an image of my 0.23 installation which I will restore as I lost so much with the “upgrade” to 0.24. Perhaps my KWorld dual tuner DVB-T 160 will start working again in the old environment. This was another question I raised on the forum without a single suggestion to fix so I pulled out the card in put it in a Windows machine where it works OK. I actually thought the card had failed not expecting a upgrade to 0.24 to kill it so completely.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'>Kind Regards</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>mythtv-users mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:mythtv-users@mythtv.org">mythtv-users@mythtv.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://www.mythtv.org/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users">http://www.mythtv.org/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users</a><o:p></o:p></pre><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'><br>Yes, frustrating when nobody replies, yet many people can generate a lot of crud on a seemingly simple topic such as whether to run GUI on a standalone BE.<br><br>With the Nokia, I am assuming its a bug, caused by what I am unsure. I think because its not an iPhone or an Android, nobody seems to care anymore that there are other devices out there (although, as I dont own either of these phones, have not tested on them)<br><br>Not had any tuner related issues with 0.24, until recently that is, but I think that is more a kernel / startup timing issue. My AverMedia Super 007, was unable to tune channels at random. Adding a 20 sec delay to mythtv-backend startup script fixed that issue. (Although MythTV developers strongly deny that it could be caused by MythTV itself). This problem only started about two weeks ago, possibly after a kernel upgrade.<br><br>Although, I have no knowledge of your KWorld Tuner, what issues where you having with it?<br>What version of 0.24 are you running?<br><br>Michael<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'>I agree that although this forum is supposed to be about user issues it seem to be dominated by highly technical people who discuss in depth fringe marginal engineering variables and when simple user issues are raised they are simply ignored. There seems an underlying contempt to the “nob” user. There also seems to be a very adverse response to anyone reporting aspect of the Myth interface that is confusing to new users. You would think that such feedback is very valuable however is often treated with extreme hostility with shoot the messenger responses..<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'>I though being able to use my Nokia E63 to schedule recording was really cool and cannot believe that is could completely break with a “upgrade”. Worse is the lack of support and help to troubleshoot suggesting a degree of denial in some quarters.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'>Concerning the Kworld 160 it was working fine for 11 months and when I upgraded to 0.24 I got a problem when it could not lock a channel even though the signal was strong. It would work 15% of the time but fail for the rest. The previous kernel did not support the Kworld so I had to download and install the firmware AF9015 however this was not changed by the MythTv upgrade.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'>I posted several messages providing details and got zippo support and in the end I ripped out the card thinking I had a hardware fault and was stunned to see it work fine in window. How can an upgrade wipe you out like this and get zippo from the support forum.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'>Sorry Michael – I forgot to post the version of myth I have installed.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Version 2:0.24.1 + Fixes . 20110710.6dfda22<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></body></html>