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    On 14/09/2011 21:18, Anthony Rooney wrote:
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                    lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU"
                  lang="EN-US"> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:mythtv-users-bounces@mythtv.org">mythtv-users-bounces@mythtv.org</a>
                  [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:mythtv-users-bounces@mythtv.org">mailto:mythtv-users-bounces@mythtv.org</a>] <b>On Behalf
                    Of </b>Michael Watson<br>
                  <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 14 September 2011 12:40 AM<br>
                  <b>To:</b> Discussion about MythTV<br>
                  <b>Subject:</b> Re: [mythtv-users] FW: Channel listing
                  on mythweb from PDA broken<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">On 13/09/2011 23:07, Anthony Rooney
            wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU"
                    lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU"
                  lang="EN-US"> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:mythtv-users-bounces@mythtv.org">mythtv-users-bounces@mythtv.org</a>
                  [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:mythtv-users-bounces@mythtv.org">mailto:mythtv-users-bounces@mythtv.org</a>]
                  <b>On Behalf Of </b>Anthony Rooney<br>
                  <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 7 September 2011 8:18 PM<br>
                  <b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:mythtv-users@mythtv.org">mythtv-users@mythtv.org</a><br>
                  <b>Subject:</b> [mythtv-users] Channel listing on
                  mythweb from PDA broken</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">Previously I used my Nokia E63 to connect
            to MythWeb and selected &#8220;Listings&#8221; and then the channel to
            see what was scheduled on that channel at that particular
            time and could scroll forward and back as required and
            select recording etc.&nbsp; Following the upgrade from 0.23 to
            0.24 I can no longer get listings to work from my E63 and
            all works as normal from any PC based web browser client
            connecting to MythWeb.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">Now when I select listings and then the
            channel I am taken to a screen with the current date and the
            &nbsp;Jump button with no listings below.&nbsp; I cannot figure out
            why this no longer works.&nbsp; I downloaded a different browser
            to the E63 with no good effect.&nbsp; I tried the reset MythWeb
            template default command from the PDA browser
            (?RESET_TMPL=true) which also did not work.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">Everything work Ok using MythWeb from any
            computer or laptop based browser but does not work anymore
            from the Nokia.&nbsp; &gt;From the Nokia all of the other MythWeb
            functions also work fine &#8211; Upcoming Recordings, Recorded
            Programs and Backend status display all the required data
            but not Listings.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">I tried creating a second authorised user
            based on some feedback I found on Google that you need a 2<sup>nd</sup>
            user for PDA &nbsp;however ran into trouble with the HTPASSWD
            command not allowing me to add a second user.&nbsp; I then used
            the &#8211;C option which created an new htpasswd file which has
            stopped Apache2 from starting the web service I presume
            because it know it has a different hash.&nbsp; It seems I have
            swallowed the spider to catch the fly trying to fix this in
            the absence of any advise or assistance.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">I cannot be the only one to have had
            listing break on PDA devices yet not help.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">This is a very useful feature which
            people will want to use so how do you get assistance or
            advice when it stops working?<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">Anthony<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I cannot
              believe I am the only one using a PDA device to access
              MythWeb in the manner described so how come I get
              absolutely no assistance or suggestions to help me get
              round such a debilitating problem using this feature?&nbsp;
              MythWeb is as useful as an ashtray on a motorbike or tits
              on a bull if you cannot use mobile devices to load an
              interface that is usable.&nbsp; This stopped working without
              reason following an &#8220;upgrade&#8221; from 0.23 to 0.24 so how do
              I recover this functionality??</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">This is
              supposed to be a USER forum so how do users get
              assistance? </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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              <o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre>
          <pre>mythtv-users mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre>
          <pre><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:mythtv-users@mythtv.org">mythtv-users@mythtv.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
          <pre><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.mythtv.org/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users">http://www.mythtv.org/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
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              For what its worth,<br>
              <br>
              I tested the same on my Nokia E71, and get the same result
              as you.&nbsp; <br>
              Relevent line from the Apache access.log file is:<br>
              <br>
              "GET /mythweb/tv/channel/1207/20110914 HTTP/1.1" 200 1128
              <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://10.0.11.10/mythweb/tv/list">"http://10.0.11.10/mythweb/tv/list"</a>
              "Mozilla/5.0 (SymbianOS/9.2; U; Series60/3.1
              NokiaE71-1/510.21.009; Profile/MIDP-2.0
              Configuration/CLDC-1.1 ) AppleWebKit/413 (KHTML, like
              Gecko) Safari/413"<br>
              <br>
              Pasting&nbsp;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://10.0.11.10/mythweb/tv/channel/1207/20110914"><font
                  color="red"><b></b></font>
                http://10.0.11.10/mythweb/tv/channel/1207/20110914</a>
              into a web browser on my desktop gives the listing for
              that channel as expected.&nbsp; No errors are logged in the
              apache error.log <br>
              <br>
              MythTV Version&nbsp;&nbsp; : v0.24.1-84-g8f865a6<br>
              MythTV Branch&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : fixes/0.24<br>
              <br>
              <br>
              Regards,<br>
              Michael <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
              style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU">Thanks
              for the feedback Michael, you are the only one that
              responded to this question in over 3 weeks.&nbsp; I guess there
              are not many people using their mobile devices to access
              MythTv listings, which is very surprising.&nbsp; Do you think
              this is a bug and there is no work-a-round?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
              style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
              style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU">I have an
              image of my 0.23 installation which I will restore as I
              lost so much with the &#8220;upgrade&#8221; to 0.24.&nbsp; Perhaps my
              KWorld dual tuner DVB-T 160 &nbsp;will start working again in
              the old environment.&nbsp; This was another question I raised
              on the forum without a single suggestion to fix so I
              pulled out the card in put it in a Windows machine where
              it works OK.&nbsp; I actually thought the card had failed not
              expecting a upgrade to 0.24 to kill it so completely.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
              style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
              style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU">Kind
              Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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    <br>
    Yes, frustrating when nobody replies, yet many people can generate a
    lot of crud on a seemingly simple topic such as whether to run GUI
    on a standalone BE.<br>
    <br>
    With the Nokia, I am assuming its a bug, caused by what I am
    unsure.&nbsp; I think because its not an iPhone or an Android, nobody
    seems to care anymore that there are other devices out there
    (although, as I dont own either of these phones, have not tested on
    them)<br>
    <br>
    Not had any tuner related issues with 0.24, until recently that is,
    but I think that is more a kernel / startup timing issue.&nbsp; My
    AverMedia Super 007, was unable to tune channels at random.&nbsp; Adding
    a 20 sec delay to mythtv-backend startup script fixed that issue.&nbsp;
    (Although MythTV developers strongly deny that it could be caused by
    MythTV itself).&nbsp; This problem only started about two weeks ago,
    possibly after a kernel upgrade.<br>
    <br>
    Although, I have no knowledge of your KWorld Tuner, what issues
    where you having with it?<br>
    What version of 0.24 are you running?<br>
    <br>
    Michael<br>
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