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<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">On Tuesday 20 Nov 2012 17:26:51 Mark wrote:<br /></p>
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<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:80px; margin-right:80px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 6:22 AM, Mark Greenwood <<a href="mailto:fatgerman@gmail.com"><span style=" text-decoration: underline; color:#809dae;">fatgerman@gmail.com</span></a>> wrote:<br /></p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:84px; margin-right:80px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">On Tuesday 20 Nov 2012 10:17:10 Mark wrote:<br />> On 2012-11-20 9:43 AM, Mark Greenwood wrote:<br />> > On Tuesday 20 Nov 2012 10:21:56 Michael T. Dean wrote:<br />> >> On 11/20/2012 02:05 AM, Phill Edwards wrote:<br />> >>>> I have to ask whether it's time for the folks interested in coding the<br />> >>>> frontend bits to give up on the Myth frontend as it's own stand-alone<br />> >>>> app (along with all of it's failing bits) and instead take the<br />> >>>> working-really-well bits and provide XBMC with first class Myth playback<br />> >>>> capabilities.<br />> >>>><br />> >>> I love mythfrontend and I find it very disappointing that people want<br />> >>> to get rid of it as I don't think whatever replaces it will be as good<br />> >>> for TV recording playback. Sure XBMC looks good but I think features<br />> >>> come first.<br />> >>><br />> >> And, FWIW, mythfrontend can look /very/ good, too--just requires some<br />> >> people to actually help with theming it (rather than just saying that<br />> >> XBMC is better and recommending we drop mythfrontend)...<br />> >><br />> > Yes, the MythMediaStream theme looks really good, but it does use up a shedload of RAM. IMO all the XBMC themes look great, they're easy to navigate, and seem to use far less memory - which is significant for many who run a frontend on a small PC.<br />> ><br />> > But it's not al about eye candy. I've been experimenting with XMBC as a frontend and the setup is SO much simpler - I haven't had to faff with sysctl.conf, udev rules, (for RTC timing) or even the dreaded LIRC. It all just worked (apart from the usual type of faffing with xorg.conf). And A/V sync is spot on with all sources, including TV - which it wasn't with mythtv 0.26.<br />> ><br />> > I'm sure mythfrontend is extremely capable (I know it is, I went to the trouble of setting it up) but using XBMC gives me more beer time. I think that perhaps when people say 'XBMC is better' they might mean 'I managed to get XBMC to work so I'm using it because I gave up on mythfrontend after 3 days'.<br />> ><br />> > Mark<br />> > _______________________________________________<br />> > mythtv-users mailing list<br />> > <a href="mailto:mythtv-users@mythtv.org"><span style=" text-decoration: underline; color:#809dae;">mythtv-users@mythtv.org</span></a><br />> > <a href="http://www.mythtv.org/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users"><span style=" text-decoration: underline; color:#809dae;">http://www.mythtv.org/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users</span></a><br />> Pardon the slightly off topic.<br />> There is no xbmc plugin for mythtv 26 is there?<br />> I would like to look at it if so.<br /><br /></p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">No but there is a mythtv plugin for xbmc, which I think is what you want. It allows you to use xmbc as a frontend for your mythtv backend. It is, however, experimental and currently only works with the development version of xbmc and the add-on itself has to be built from source. It's all on the xbmc downloads page if you're interested. It's what I'm now using as my main frontend.<br /></p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:80px; margin-right:80px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br />There are several routes to mythtv in XBMC, including:<br /><br />The PVR plugin I think you are referring to, build instructions here <a href="http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=PVR/Backend/MythTV/BuildFromSource"><span style=" text-decoration: underline; color:#809dae;">http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=PVR/Backend/MythTV/BuildFromSource</span></a>. Seems to work with 0.25 backend, but needs XBMC 12 (currently beta) and to compile the plugin. As the instructions show, this is not hard.<br /><br />Mythbox, works against 0.25 if you have XBMC 12 (I think) and get the plugin's forked version from here: <a href="https://github.com/mitchcapper/mythbox"><span style=" text-decoration: underline; color:#809dae;">https://github.com/mitchcapper/mythbox</span></a><br /><br />The myth:// protocol built in to XBMC - no plugin needed, but it is pretty basic. You specify a url like myth://user:password@backend and that's all you need to do.<br /><br />There are probably others too - some historical (ie no longer work).<br /> </p>
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<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Are there any that work with 26?<br /></p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Yes, the very latest build-from-source plugin I mentioned works with 0.26. Been running it for a couple of days, had some mates round to watch a movie, no problems so far. AND I've been able to remove the awful LIRC from my system, which is a real bonus :)</p>
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