User talk:Sususu

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Discussion from Frontend Feature Wishlist

Rather than continue dirtying up the wishlist, I'm continuing this here instead. --Wagnerrp

agreed, but i will move anything back that should be read by all --Sususu 10:56, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

The take home point I'm trying to keep across is that you haven't given any valid reasons for it. At best, it would be an unreliable work around for problems that would be better solved in a different manner. Descriptive audio should be handled by selecting specific tags in the stream. Inconsistent audio volume should be handled by implementing Dialnorm, or by adding a rolling normalization routine during playback or as a batch job. If the mixer is resulting in too high or too low audio, then it is a legitimate bug that should go on trac, not the wishlist.

yea i have read a good amount of that mythtv trac bug reports. its frustrating that several honest user bug reports there receive an invalid. though i understand why they receive an invalid. it simply does not help them. --Sususu 08:30, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
also to be questioned is if it is really a bug and fixing it will solve the issue?--Sususu 08:30, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
i mean does dial norm have to be set correctly? (dont know whether mythtv tampers with the ac3 if it loops it through to digital output, but my (not cheap)TV wasnt able to decode it either)--Sususu 08:30, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

MythTV has traditionally provided options for any and every setting someone wanted to change. This is a bad design paradigm. When you give users options, there is a fair chance they're going to use them, even if they don't understand their meaning. There are many examples of options in MythTV that were added for rare configurations or hardware, but are enabled in inappropriate situations resulting in worse problems than they fix. The last several versions of MythTV have made an effort to remove these kinds of settings, replacing them with automatic detection, or removing their functionality all together. This is that kind of setting that will be misunderstood by most, rarely used for its designed purpose, and result in more problems than it solves.

this is the same attitude that i tried to address. its paternalism. users of MythTV arent that dumb as you give them credit for (and i am very allergic of being addressed in that matter ) . in fact i dont believe that anyone without some serious background into computers operates mythtv. --Sususu 08:30, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
not that i dont understand what you mean, i actually also rather strive for the optimal solution but i had to learn the very very hard way that for some things the optimal solution is not within my power (or rather my lifespan ;) ) --Sususu 08:30, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
my only valid reason is that i want the freedom of choice whether an automatic piece of code decides for me a track decoded by an inferior algorithm or i decide to take the first track everytime. --Sususu 08:30, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
i get that that is against your policy and that that policy comes from the amount of complaints due to wrong settings. but as said before i dont think the users are completely incompetent but rather that they/we have no effective documentation. --Sususu 08:30, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
so i assure you that i get your points, and i certainly dont just dash out demands without having thought of the alternatives . even though i have to admit i lack knowledge about things like dialnorm. but i know what i dont know and more importantly what others cant possibly know (like if dialnorm is transmitted or is set even ). --Sususu 08:30, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Audio Level During Commercials

You are using MythTV, which does have the ability to skip at will. Telling someone to simply skip commercials when they complain about them is most certainly not trolling, but rather simply stating the design intent of the application. If the commercial detection does not function properly, fast forward. If you do not like the fast forward behavior, use the time skip instead. Default skip length is 30 seconds, set for the default commercial length in North America. You can change this if Germany is different. Alternatively, hit one or more numbers, followed by an arrow key, to jump that many minutes in the video. --Wagnerrp

uh and what if i want to watch commercials .. ?
what if i'm watching live tv?
what if i dont want to wait until the commercials are marked?
in fact its FASCIST to tell someone to skip it ... and it doesnt help in the matter. because the subject is not about commercial detection and jumping but about volume errors ... therefore its trolling (trolling: a useless argumentation not adding any value to the main topic )
Please keep your discussion civil, Sususu. If you add any more insults to the wiki, I will delete your account and ban you. Wagnerrp is giving you courteous answers, and your behavior is unacceptable. This is your only warning.
i believe im very civilized and im only reacting on insults. if im not insulted then i will neither insult someone else. i merely defended myself and as wagnerrp was only the "thread-mover" he was never subjected directly. (it was summarized , maybe you should rather read the log in wishlist) --Sususu 08:30, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
its a blunted sword not to be used lightly by "someone unsignatured" (lets suppose its the admin). if im kicked you know i could open another a account easily. however i wont, i'll be gone and mark your community accordingly and know that i will have to do changes myself, if i want them done --Sususu 08:30, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
thats the general problem with mythtv core comunity: pointing something obvious out without adressing the subjected problem ... it couldnt be more insulting ... in fact if that kind of conversation would be face2face my fist would instantly smash it. (not being aggressive only responsive) --Sususu 11:00, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
its final: skipping commercials is no default option for all and must not be enforced (not even by US-Americans) --Sususu 10:56, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
stays valid and commercial marking and skipping is uninteresting because it will never work as precise as required --Sususu 08:30, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Variable volume in a recording is a problem, but the solution is not to choose MP2 over AC3 tracks. The problem you are experiencing is because AC3 has a parameter called dialnorm, which seeks to allow full use of dynamic range, while ensuring the audio is properly loud for playback. MythTV blindly ignores this parameter. Television shows broadcast using this parameter may be significantly quieter than commercials, because MythTV is not applying the proper gain during playback. --Wagnerrp

question is, are there plans to include this ? ... would be great if it was ...
however still my points stay valid --Sususu 10:56, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
1. people want to configure their system freely
2. for several choosing an audiotrack by themself is practiced and it would ease the lives of many of them if they could select one by default
3. its easy as disabling the automatic audiotrack-selection so its of no use to resist it ... as i said i will implement it eventually

Commercial Detection

The bulk of MythTV developers, and all of those who have tinkered significantly in the commercial detection algorithms, are located in the US. While that means the algorithms are tuned for, and work reasonably well with, North American television content, it unfortunately means performance in other markets may be poor. This is something that really needs someone in the area with access to significant amounts of location specific recordings to fix. As cliche as this seems sometimes, patches welcome. --Wagnerrp

Some British users have had luck using silence detection to mark commercial points. There is a hackish script on the wiki that wraps a tool intended for use with single-file mp3 albums, and manually produces a commercial list. A proper audio analysis mechanism in mythcommflag would likely go a long way to improving accuracy for everyone. --Wagnerrp

commercial detection is dead already .. its something none needs when it doesn't work fast and precisely and it can never work precise with reasonable effort ... --Sususu 10:56, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

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add your signatures --Sususu 10:54, 18 June 2011 (UTC)