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| − | {{Tip box|We are trying to get the NL specific information in Dutch available on [http://www.mythtv.nl/wiki/ Dutch mythtv wiki]. If you have some free cycles, please add some info to the [http://www.mythtv.nl/wiki/ Dutch pages], still a lot todo. Some quick links to the NL wiki: [http://www.mythtv.nl/wiki/index.php/Grabbers Grabbers] - [http://www.mythtv.nl/wiki/index.php/Zenders Zenders] - [http://www.mythtv.nl/wiki/index.php/Aanbieders Aanbieders].}} | + | {{Tip box|Because everything on the international mythTV wiki is in English we moved the Netherlands specific content to the NL wiki. |
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| − | == Introduction ==
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| − | In the Netherlands there is currently one system left for analog broadcast receiving. This is by means of using the cable, which is provided by the cable provider in the region where one is living.The old fashioned analog antenna system is no longer available, so far antenna reception only a digital solution can be used. Satellite is also available in the Netherlands.
| + | {{Webpage|wiki.mythtv.nl/index.php/Grabbers|mythTV NL wiki - EPG and Grabber}} |
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| − | [http://mythtv.nl mythtv.nl] is a Dutch forum for NL users. Please consolidate NL specific info on this official wikipage !!
| + | {{Webpage|wiki.mythtv.nl/index.php|mythTV NL wiki}} |
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| | + | {{Webpage|www.mythtv.nl/forum/index.php|mythTV NL forum - join the Dutch community and get/give some love and understanding}} |
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| − | ;Your options:
| + | {{Webpage|wiki.mythtv.nl/index.php/Grabbers#Zender_logo.27s|Dutch TV Logo's}} |
| − | This section is moved to http://www.mythtv.nl/wiki/index.php/Aanbieders
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| − | == UPC ==
| + | {{Webpage|https://github.com/tvgrabbers/tvgrabnlpy|Dutch tv_grab_nl_py Version 2 XMLTV grabber (in Dutch)}} |
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| − | UPC has multiple version of their so-called 'mediabox'. The most common version is the one with standard (SCART) video output, as any regular television set can handle. This box in fact is a relabled device from the Thomson brand.
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| − | Currently UPC has a test roll-out of a newer mediabox, which has a HDMI output instead of SCART. This box is a relabled Philips brand.
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| − | The UPC mediabox DOES NOT use a smart-card (for all known versions). During installation the box is registered at the UPC servers.
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| − | More info about UPC digital can be found on http://www.digitalekabeltelevisie.nl/waar/upc.shtml
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| − | '''Encryption'''
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| − | UPC uses Nagravision 2 encryption in combination with their own proprietary checksum based on serial number box (mac address), number smartcard.
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| − | This additional 'security' layer is also probably the reason why you can have only one box per household.
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| − | The box also seem to have an integrated cable modem. So on IP level there is something like a handshake.
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| − | In the past the base package was send Free to Air (FTA) and could be picked up with any standard DVB-C card (without encryption)
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| − | So far I do not have any experience with working PCI DVB-C cards, but during my research for information I found the following link: http://www.linuxtv.org/vdrwiki/index.php/Conditional_Access_Module which states the 'MagicModule' CAM module should be able to handle nagravision encryption. Maybe this CAM module in combination with a PCI DVB-C card can provide a successful setup??? --[[User:Michel|Michel]] 21:00, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
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| − | '''Additional information (Dutch sites)'''
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| − | {{Webpage|www.stopstandby.nl/UPC_MediaBox.html UPC|MediaBox eersteklas standby-verspiller}} | |
| − | {{Webpage|upc.hasse.nl/|Alles wat UPC U niet vertelt over UPC digital!}}
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| − | {{Webpage|gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_messages/1096768|Digitale kabel TV op de PC}}
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| − | {{Webpage|www.degroeneknop.nl/forum/index.php/topic,3221.msg15760.html#msg15760|Verwarring rond DVB en UPC}}
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| − | {{Webpage|forum.trosradar.nl/viewtopic.php?t=37119&sid=bf4c67ce288fb1a8d3f536ad5313ed3b|TROS Radar: Digitale kabel televisie en Common Access Modules}}
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| − | ;Mediaportal
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| − | In 2006 some guys has it working with mediaportal and the free to air (FTA) base package.
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| − | http://www.sat4all.com/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=1139779&page=0&fpart=all&vc=1
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| − | == Zesko Holding ==
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| − | Zesko Holding is the temporary working name of the company that was formed after the merger of Casema, @Home and MultiKabel. These cable companies will continue to use their own brand names during the consolidations phase. They are already working together to harmonize pricing and product offerings and they are also working to combine their TV packages into one uniform platform.
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| − | === CASEMA ===
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| − | see mythtv.nl/wiki
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| − | === Multikabel ===
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| − | see mythtv.nl/wiki
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| − | === @Home (fka Essent) ===
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| − | see mythtv.nl/wiki
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| − | == CAIw ==
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| − | see mythtv.nl/wiki
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| − | '''Links''':
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| − | * [http://www.caiw.nl/radiotv-midden-tv-rtv-tvprogrammering-analoog.htm?onderdeel=radio&content=radiotv-midden-tv-rtv-tvprogrammering-analoog.htm Kanalenkaart televisie-analoog]
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| − | * [http://www.caiw.nl/radiotv-midden-tv-rtv-tvprogrammering-radio.htm?onderdeel=radio&content=radiotv-midden-tv-rtv-tvprogrammering-radio.htm Kanalenkaart radio]
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| − | ;Digital
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| − | This provider uses a Samsung box but DOES NOT use a smartcard. The box can be operated without a smartcard, but provides additional channels if a smartcard is inserted.
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| − | [[Image:irdeto.gif]] CAIw uses Irdeto2 encryption, which is handled by the Samsung box. Any computer DVB-C card which has an Irdeto 2 compatible decoder may work. MythTV works flawlessly with the Cinergy 1200 DVB-C.
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| − | '''Links''':
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| − | * [http://www.caiw.nl/radiotv-midden-tv-rtv-tvprogrammering.htm?onderdeel=radio&content=radiotv-midden-tv-rtv-tvprogrammering.htm Kanalenkaart televisie-digitaal]
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| − | === User experience ===
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| − | = XMLTV Grabbers =
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| − | == tv_grab_nl_py ==
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| − | This content is moved to the [http://www.mythtv.nl/wiki/index.php/Grabbers Dutch mythtv wiki]
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| − | Here is my script I use in combination with the grabber to add IMDB info to the Dutch xmltv data.<br>
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| − | Before you can use this you need to create a local imdb database. Be aware that this takes quite some time and uses disk space. To create your local imdb database use the following command:
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| − | tv_imdb --imdbdir <dir> --prepStage all --download
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| − | {{Code box|myth_epg_nl.sh|<pre>
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| − | # !/bin/bash
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| − | # myth_epg_nl.sh
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| − | # by Moosy
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| − | # *************************************************************************************
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| − | # * C H A N G E T H E S E F O R Y O U R M A C H I N E *
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| − | # *************************************************************************************
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| − | # * grabber_dir = The directory where tv_grab_nl_py is located *
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| − | # * temp_dir = Temp directory *
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| − | # * imdb_dir = Directory where the IMDB database is stored *
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| − | # *************************************************************************************
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| − | grabber_dir="/home/mythtv/.mythtv"
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| − | temp_dir="/data/temp"
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| − | imdb_dir="/data/imdb"
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| − | # *************************************************************************************
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| − | # * INSTALL/UPDATE TV_GRAB_NL_PY *
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| − | # *************************************************************************************
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| − | #
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| − | mv $grabber_dir/tv_grab_nl_py $grabber_dir/tv_grab_nl_py.old
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| − | cd $grabber_dir
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| − | wget http://visualization.tudelft.nl/~paul/grabber/download/tv_grab_nl_py
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| − | chmod ugo+x $grabber_dir/tv_grab_nl_py
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| − | rm /usr/bin/tv_grab_nl
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| − | ln -s $grabber_dir/tv_grab_nl_py /usr/bin/tv_grab_nl
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| − | # *************************************************************************************
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| − | # * GET THE INITIAL EPG INFO INTO A FILE *
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| − | # *************************************************************************************
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| − | #
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| − | $grabber_dir/tv_grab_nl_py --output $temp_dir/epg.xml --days 14
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| − | # *************************************************************************************
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| − | # * ADD THE IMDB RANKING TO THE EPG AND FILL THE MYTHTV DATABASE *
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| − | # * *
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| − | # * sample to create the imdb database: *
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| − | # * tv_imdb --imdbdir /data/imdb/ --prepStage all --download --movies-only --stats *
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| − | # * *
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| − | # *************************************************************************************
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| − | tv_imdb --imdbdir $imdb_dir --stats --quiet --output $temp_dir/epg_imdb.xml $temp_dir/epg.xml
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| − | mythfilldatabase --file 1 -1 $temp_dir/epg_imdb.xml
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| − | # *************************************************************************************
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| − | # * FIX THE MOVIE CATEGORY *
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| − | # * and make sure only Movies are flagged as Movie *
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| − | # *************************************************************************************
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| − | mysql -umythtv -pmythtv mythconverg -e "UPDATE program SET category_type = '' WHERE category = 'Movie' ;"
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| − | mysql -umythtv -pmythtv mythconverg -e "UPDATE program SET category_type = 'movie' WHERE category_type != 'movie'
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| − | AND (UNIX_TIMESTAMP(endtime) - UNIX_TIMESTAMP(starttime)) >= 5400
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| − | AND (category = 'Action' OR category = 'Adventure' OR
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| − | category = 'Movies' OR category = 'Movie' OR category = 'Film' OR category = 'Films' ) ;"
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| − | # * These are not Movies and should not be in the Movie list - so let's delete them from the movie list
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| − | mysql -umythtv -pmythtv mythconverg -e "UPDATE program SET category_type = '' WHERE title = 'Moviefacts' ;"
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| − | mysql -umythtv -pmythtv mythconverg -e "UPDATE program SET category_type = '' WHERE title = 'Making the movie' ;"
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| − | mysql -umythtv -pmythtv mythconverg -e "UPDATE program SET category_type = '' WHERE title = 'DVD Today' ;"
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| − | mysql -umythtv -pmythtv mythconverg -e "UPDATE program SET category_type = '' WHERE title = 'DVD today' ;"
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| − | mysql -umythtv -pmythtv mythconverg -e "UPDATE program SET category_type = '' WHERE title = 'RTL Film' ;"
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| − | == tv_grab_nl_upc ==
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| − | [[Image:Package.png]] [http://www.caliban.org/ruby/xmltv_upc.shtml tv_grab_nl_upc] is an XMLTV-compatible grabber, written in Ruby. It captures TV-guide info from [http://www.chello.nl/Entertainment/TV_gids/ chello.nl], including links to channel icons.
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| − | UPC's programme data contains more thorough programme descriptions than those available at [http://tvgids.nl tvgids.nl]. Additionally, many of UPC's digital cable channels, such as BBC3, BBC4 and the Travel Channel are not supported by [http://tvgids.nl tvgids.nl], which means that other grabbers cannot be used for these channels.
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| − | Another advantage of this grabber is that it runs much more quickly than the other Dutch grabbers, because of the more efficient page structure of UPC's programme data. A single page fetch obtains an entire day's programming for one channel, whereas other programs require one page fetch per programme.
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| − | In threaded mode, the program fetches data for all channels in parallel, allowing up to 10,000 programmes to be fetched in just 60 seconds.
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| − | ~/.xmltv/tv_grab_nl_upc.conf can be edited to delete any channels that you don't need.
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| − | Detailed instructions on how to install and configure the grabber are [http://www.caliban.org/ruby/xmltv_upc.shtml#install available].
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| − | == tv_grab_nl_gert ==
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| − | [[Image:Package.png]] [http://www.addictivesoftware.net/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=3&Itemid=28 tv_grab_nl_gert] This seems to be an alternative for tv_grab_nl_py but the info this page seems pretty old.
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| − | kwik: I do use this grabber and it is very good! It provides detailed information, including genre info. Furthermore it is well maintained. Here's some important info from the site:
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| − | ''Because the standard tv_grab_nl script can be quite a strain on the www.tvgids.nl website and takes about an hour to get 1 day of detailed information. I wrote a script to get that info once a night, and make the resulting xml available. ''
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| − | == tv_grab_nl_wolf ==
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| − | This content is moved to the [http://www.mythtv.nl/wiki/index.php/Grabbers Dutch mythtv wiki]
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| − | == tv_grab_nl_C ==
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| − | This content is moved to the [http://www.mythtv.nl/wiki/index.php/Grabbers Dutch mythtv wiki]
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| − | = Online TV Guides =
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| − | Here is a list of online TV Guids in the netherlands
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| − | * [http://www.nu.nl/tvgids/ NU TV Gids]
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| − | = Channel logos =
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| − | The electronic program guide (EPG), allows you to see what is currently being shown on the channels you receive. The source of the EPG is country specific.
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| − | [[Image:netherlands.png]]Logos are provided as square images, which makes them suitable for use with MythTV. To use these logos,
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| − | download the logos to your mythtv backend box (in a seperate directory of course!), start <code>mythtv-setup</code> and go to the channel editor.
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| − | Fill in the filenames for the channels you have a logo for.
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| − | There is another page on this Wiki which handles channel logos: [[Channel_icons|Channel icons]].
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| − | On the following pages you find logos for Dutch television:
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| − | [http://xmltv.fambus.nl/logos/ Fambus logos]
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| − | [http://visualization.tudelft.nl/~paul/logos/gif/ TU Delft Paul]
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| − | [http://www.lyngsat-logo.com/tvcountry/nl.html Lyngsat Logo - Netherlands (Television)]
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| − | [http://www.lyngsat-logo.com/radiocountry/nl.html Lyngsat Logo - Netherlands (Radio)]
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| − | = External Links for Dutch Users =
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| − | * [http://willy.boerland.com/myblog/for_the_dutch_mythtv_users NL Specific Configurations (see website comments) *slow*]
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| − | * [http://www.mythportal.be Mythportal.be ] Communitysite for Belgian and Dutch users
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| | [[Category:HOWTO]] | | [[Category:HOWTO]] |
Tip: Because everything on the international mythTV wiki is in English we moved the Netherlands specific content to the NL wiki.
The mythtv.nl wiki is in Dutch and provides country specific information.
