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== LIRC ==
 
== LIRC ==
  
I had to install lirc via source (no lirc-related debs are installed on my machine) ... can anyone provide a guide on how to use apt-get to properly install lirc?  It can go here ( [[LIRC_on_Debian_Etch]] ) if you can. --[[User:Dgymnycee|Dgymnycee]] 16:46, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
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I moved this to the [[Talk:LIRC_on_Debian_Etch|Talk page for LIRC-on-Debian-etch]], since it's more relevant there.
 
 
Problem is you have to generate a lirc-modules-XXX.deb package yourself, as the distribution does not provide them for the standard Debian kernels (yet?). This needs to be done using make-kpkg, and that one depends on the kernel-headers package for your kernel. I am able to explain this to you, if you provide me with some information about your installed kernel (`dpkg -l | grep kernel-image` output). Maybe we can write the documentation on this wiki together? My system has been tuned to heavy to easily replay the rather trivial process... --[[User:Michel|Michel]] 20:44, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
 
 
 
I think it was a lack of understanding as far as the use of make-kpkg went that kept me from using it.  I have started a bit of documentation in the [[LIRC_on_Debian_Etch]] page, but I haven't looked at it in a while so I forget how detailed it is.  I also think my entire experience was muddled by the fact that I had a bad tuner in my first attempt, so it's possible that the debian-specific way of installing would have worked just fine. I currently have a very buggy system that hangs/crashes too often for my liking, so I expect to be going through the install process again sometime soon ... So, it's a good time to get a wiki written.
 
For the kernel, I am using (and part of my goal with this debian installation was to stay as debian-provided as possible, so it's an unmodified kernel):<br>
 
linux-image-2.6-k7 ... 2.6.18+6<br>
 
linux-image-2.6.18-4-k7 ... 2.6.18.dfsg.1-12<br>
 
linux-headers-2.6.18-4 ... 2.6.18.dfsg.1-12<br>
 
linux-headers-2.6.18-4-k7 ... 2.6.18.dfsg.1-12<br>
 
linux-kernel-headers ... 2.6.18-7<br>
 
--[[User:Dgymnycee|Dgymnycee]] 21:07, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
 
  
 
== Etch (is not Lenny nor Sid) ==
 
== Etch (is not Lenny nor Sid) ==
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I.m.h.o. the average user 'just wants to install a MythTV box on Debian GNU/Linux', the stable version. So don't bother those people with an overkill of information.
 
I.m.h.o. the average user 'just wants to install a MythTV box on Debian GNU/Linux', the stable version. So don't bother those people with an overkill of information.
  
Therefor, I removed the following part:
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Therefor, I removed the part about 'lines for /etc/apt/sources.list' for 'lenny' and 'sid'.
  
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I think if people want to play with [[Installing_MythTV_on_Debian_Lenny|testing (lenny)]] or unstable (sid) Debian installations they are far enough to adapt their sources.list --[[User:Michel|Michel]] 19:56, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
For lenny (testing) alpha, amd64, hppa, i386, ia64, powerpc and sparc packages:
 
  
  deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org lenny main
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I completely forgot that it was an Etch-specific document. :-P  You can remove this entire Discussion section if you want ... it was a ridiculous addition on my part and didn't require any justification in its removal (thanks, though). --[[User:Dgymnycee|Dgymnycee]] 16:55, 26 April 2007 (EDT? EST? Both?)
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  deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing main
 
  
For sid (unstable) alpha, amd64, hppa, i386, ia64, powerpc and sparc packages:
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No, I want to keep this for a future [[Installing_MythTV_on_Debian_Lenny]] page or so, as that will be the upcoming release sooner or (more probably) later. --[[User:Michel|Michel]] 21:12, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
  
  deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org sid main
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As you may see, I started moving parts of the content to a raw draft for a [[Installing_MythTV_on_Debian_Lenny]] page --[[User:Michel|Michel]] 19:54, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
  
For experimental amd64, i386 and sparc packages (Empty for now):
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== Differences between installation from packages and installation from source ==
  
  deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org experimental main
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I don't know if this belongs here, or on a mailinglist somewhere, but there seems to be a gap between how the installation looks after installing from source and from .deb.
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After installing from source, there is no init-script installed in /etc/init.d/ as stated in the next step after running mythtv-setup. If there is no init-script, maybe points where an init-script could be made? (if these exists anywhere).
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Furthermore, the user mythtv is not created either (are we supposed to add this user ourselves? It's only stated that we should remember to set a password for the user mythtv (for me this is not important as I am running myth as another users, for others this might be relevant). Cheers --[[User:K2OS|K2OS]] 01:13, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
  
I think if people want to play with testing (lenny) or unstable (sid) Debian installations they are far enough to adapt their sources.list --[[User:Michel|Michel]] 19:56, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
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== debian-multimedia.org ==
  
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apt is reporting 404 errors for debian-multimedia.org (the provider for the Debian MythTV packages), and the [http://www.debian-multimedia.org site] is displaying some French webmail login.  Is this permanently down?  Will there be a replacement? --[[User:Dgymnycee|Dgymnycee]] 12:41, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
  
I completely forgot that it was an Etch-specific document. :-P  You can remove this entire Discussion section if you want ... it was a ridiculous addition on my part and didn't require any justification in its removal (thanks, though). --[[User:Dgymnycee|Dgymnycee]] 16:55, 26 April 2007 (EDT? EST? Both?)
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Nope. Christian Marillat (the maintainer of debian-multimedia.org) has only 1.6T bandwith limit for the debian-multimedia.org site. With the new acroread packages (also hosted over there!) he reached the bandwidth for this month, so October, 1st you may try again. Or use one of the mirrors... (one in Germany:
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deb http://debian-multimedia.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/ stable main) --[[User:Michel|Michel]] 14:05, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
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I added the list of mirrors to the main page. If it isn't up to date (all I have to go with at this point is the Google Cache entry) please feel free to update it. --[[User:Dgymnycee|Dgymnycee]] 14:41, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 13:00, 2 April 2008

I have begun adding more information that I have come across in my own installation. I would have gotten through things much quicker if this was all in one location, however I'm not sure if I'm going beyond the original scope of this document. I would have no problem if my additions were cut/pasted into their own wiki pages, added to the "HOWTO" section. It might be useful to have, for instance, a "LiRC Install on Debian Etch"-specific HOWTO. Perhaps, after I get all the information down that I wish to contribute, I will do just that.

ivtv-utils question

Thanks for starting this HowTo... I've a question on ivtv-utils...

I'm having problems getting ivtv-utils installed on my system and noticed that it's currently marked as "unstable". none of my entries in /etc/apt/sources.list reference "unstable" so how did you get ivtv-utils etc to install on your system? Or is there a step missing?

At the moment this question was posted indeed no correct ivtv package was in etch (it was 'testing' at that moment). Now Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 has been officially released you should be able to install it without any problem! --Michel 20:46, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

LIRC

I moved this to the Talk page for LIRC-on-Debian-etch, since it's more relevant there.

Etch (is not Lenny nor Sid)

As this page talks about Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 (etch) I think additional information for other Debian versions does not need to be presented at this page. I.m.h.o. the average user 'just wants to install a MythTV box on Debian GNU/Linux', the stable version. So don't bother those people with an overkill of information.

Therefor, I removed the part about 'lines for /etc/apt/sources.list' for 'lenny' and 'sid'.

I think if people want to play with testing (lenny) or unstable (sid) Debian installations they are far enough to adapt their sources.list --Michel 19:56, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

I completely forgot that it was an Etch-specific document. :-P You can remove this entire Discussion section if you want ... it was a ridiculous addition on my part and didn't require any justification in its removal (thanks, though). --Dgymnycee 16:55, 26 April 2007 (EDT? EST? Both?)

No, I want to keep this for a future Installing_MythTV_on_Debian_Lenny page or so, as that will be the upcoming release sooner or (more probably) later. --Michel 21:12, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

As you may see, I started moving parts of the content to a raw draft for a Installing_MythTV_on_Debian_Lenny page --Michel 19:54, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Differences between installation from packages and installation from source

I don't know if this belongs here, or on a mailinglist somewhere, but there seems to be a gap between how the installation looks after installing from source and from .deb. After installing from source, there is no init-script installed in /etc/init.d/ as stated in the next step after running mythtv-setup. If there is no init-script, maybe points where an init-script could be made? (if these exists anywhere). Furthermore, the user mythtv is not created either (are we supposed to add this user ourselves? It's only stated that we should remember to set a password for the user mythtv (for me this is not important as I am running myth as another users, for others this might be relevant). Cheers --K2OS 01:13, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

debian-multimedia.org

apt is reporting 404 errors for debian-multimedia.org (the provider for the Debian MythTV packages), and the site is displaying some French webmail login. Is this permanently down? Will there be a replacement? --Dgymnycee 12:41, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Nope. Christian Marillat (the maintainer of debian-multimedia.org) has only 1.6T bandwith limit for the debian-multimedia.org site. With the new acroread packages (also hosted over there!) he reached the bandwidth for this month, so October, 1st you may try again. Or use one of the mirrors... (one in Germany: deb http://debian-multimedia.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/ stable main) --Michel 14:05, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

I added the list of mirrors to the main page. If it isn't up to date (all I have to go with at this point is the Google Cache entry) please feel free to update it. --Dgymnycee 14:41, 26 September 2007 (UTC)