Talk:MythTV on Mac x86
How do you get plugins installed on this frontend?
(nigel) The osx-packager.pl script bundles up all the plugins that currently compile.
Apple Remote Support
Just wanted to check if there has been any progess on making the apple remote work? Would it be possibly to some how use a different remote with the built in IR port with LIRC or something?
UPDATE: This is now possible using Remote Buddy
(kraney) I've created a patch that adds native support for the apple remote to mythfrontend. The patch and a more detailed description can be found in the mythtv trac ticket
|1 (Tux541)||0.19-fixes||without MMX||www.wipzradio.com mythfrontend|
|2 (tji)||0.19-fixes||With MMX||www.wipzradio.com MythFrontend-MMX|
|3 (mmead)||0.19||With MMX||www.goof.com Mythfrontend-0.19-intel-mmx.dmg.bz2|
|4 (mmead)||0.19-fixes||With MMX||www.goof.com Mythfrontend-0.19-fixes-20060407-intel-mmx.dmg.bz2|
|5 (mmead)||0.19-fixes||With MMX and Apple Remote||www.goof.com Mythfrontend-0.19-fixes-20060407-intel-mmx-remotepatch.dmg.bz2|
(mmead) (file 3 above) Using a Mac mini intel duo core 1.66Ghz, I see ~85% CPU use by mythfrontend when playing 1080i with bob deinterlacing over nfs and ~68% when playing 720p over nfs.
(tji) That's similar performance to what I'm seeing.. I got between 85-95% with 1080i filmed material, and 95-99% with 1080i sports video. I think that's because of the field/frame rate of the source material. With 720p, I also got around 70% cpu.
In looking at the performance info via 'shark', the two biggest CPU users are the yuv420-2vuy colorspace conversion, and for 1080i, the deinterlacing. The deinterlacing is already MMX accelerated. But, the colorspace conversion is not. If we can find/create mmx code to do that, we can probably save 5-10% more cpu time.
(flaggz) I'm getting very choppy performance on a 1.66GHz core duo with the MMX enabled binaries linked below. This applies to both 1080i content, and scaled 480i content, which I found pretty strange. For comparison, the latest trunk builds of VLC play these same files perfectly over the network, so the machine is clearly capable.
Interestingly, if I turn off 'Scale Video as Necessary' in TV Settings->Playback, then the problem goes away, at least for the 480i content. There is a corresponding impact to the profile information that Shark reports. The difference appears to be the YUV422_UC_ToRGB32BitColorBGRA QuickTimeComponents function, which is the primary consumer of cycles in everything except the '480i, do not scale video' case. Checking/unchecking the scale video setting has no effect on the performance of 1080i playback.
(tji) I don't see the YUV2RGB conversion at all on mine, that is done in hardware. What kind of system is this? Is it running an unaccelerated video driver? Is it non-Apple hardware?
(flaggz) It's a 1.66GHZ core due Mac Mini w/1GB RAM. The video hardware is the internal Intel GMA 950 that comes on the Mini. I only see the issue when my screen resolution is set to 1920x1080, which is weird because no scaling whatsoever should be required (it's 1080i material). I'm currently running at 1600x900 and the issue seems to be gone (performance is acceptable, but I haven't run shark to see if the YUV2RGB function drops out of the profile data at this res, yet). Obviously, I'd prefer to be at 1920x1080. tji and others, what resolution are you running on this hardware? Can you try 1920x1080 and see if you can reproduce what I reported above?
(nigel) The 1920x1080 material might actually be 1920x1088 or similar. They sometimes do that to make it divisible by 16 for the macroblocks or something.
(justin) I see very choppy performance at 1080i with file 4 on a 1.66GHz Core Duo mini. Turning off scale video as necessary results in much better performance, but standard def video becomes postage stamp sized.
(tji) My current status:
- 0.20 SVN non-MMX:
Frontend runs, communicates with backend, and can view live TV. My Core Duo mini is not fast enough to display smooth HD 1080i with this build.
I must have a MySQL version imcompatibility. My FE/BE communications have some problems.. displaying the list of recorded shows fails. I can see the data being transferred, but it hangs requesting channel icons ( 2006-03-17 10:17:23.454 MSqlQuery: SELECT icon FROM channel WHERE chanid = '1020' ; ) It hangs, repeating that sql request every half second. Anyone else seeing this?
(jpg)I had/have a similar problem [SELECT icon FROM channel]... it's not actually hanging for me, if you hit escape you will go back to the menu.
- 0.20 SVN with MMX enabled:
Same as above, except 1080i HD displays smoothly, taking 85-95% of one CPU on a Core Duo Mini.
- 0.19-fixes non-MMX:
Builds cleanly. Requires some of the older patches, since this branch wasn't updated with all the 0.20 fixes. All menus and program listings work fine. Can play live video or select recorded. Cannot play smooth HD video on Core Cuo Mini (needs MMX enhancements).
- 0.19-fixes with-MMX:
Same as above, except MMX is working, and I'm getting video playback with less than 100% cpu.
(Gaspode) Yes I have the same problem as (tji) - the Mac frontend communicates with the linux backend - and the linux backed responds - but the frontend does not seem to receive it.
(tji) Do you get complete failure of communication, or partial? On mine, I can view Live TV, and navigate some menus, but viewing the recorded program list fails, and navigating into setup menus fail.
running "mythfrontend -v all" from the command line shows more debugging info. When I try to access the recorded programs menu, it just scrolls the same message "MSqlQuery: SELECT icon FROM channel WHERE chanid = '1020' ;" I did a network sniff, and verified the communication is working, and the response appears to be okay, but the frontend doesn't accept it.
I'm wondering if it's a version incompatibility between MySQL client libs and server..
(Tux541) I had the same problem with mine, but only once. The very first time I tried to connect my frontend to my backend, after that it was fine.
(TTT_Travis) I opened the app it showed the setup screen so I set it up and then when I open it it just hangs sorta, icon just bounces and bounces for like minutes then closes
(Tux541) Try running it from a terminal. That happened to me when it can't connect to your database. If you run it from a terminal you will see it sits there trying to connect, then times out after 60 seconds, then tries again. If so try rm -rf /Users/*username*/.mythtv. This will blow out your settings, then try it again. This might be related to some of MySQL problems were seeing. By the way... What version of MythTV are running on the backend and what version of MySQL.
(Gaspode) Partial failure - Live tv works - menus work (except menus that trigger an sql query - (eg. setup, recorded programs) I used ethereal to sniff the network and the backend does respond to the front end. Also logged in to the backend mysql using the client on the frontend and verified that communication works.
I don't think it is a version problem (I have the same mysql version on the backend and the frontend) .It's either QT doing something strange to the data or the frontend itself.
(tji) Good info.. I'll try a newer version of QT, once I go back to messing with 0.20. I used the '20060321' snapshot of 3.3.6 with MythTV 0.19-fixes, and it worked fine there.
(Gaspode) Sorry , I should clarify that - I think it's either QT doing something strange to the data, or it is something in the frontend code.
(Bailey) Has anyone successfully built 0.20 yet (without experiencing the MySQL issues)? I'm going to have another crack at this evening, and see how I get on.
(tji) I just built 0.20 svn today (6/5/06), and got it to compile okay. But, I just get the background image, no menu options. I am using Qt 3.3.6 from ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qt/source/qt-mac-free-3.3.6.tar.gz.